Microsoft Agrees Windows 10 upgrade was pushed too aggressively

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  1. airbud7

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    I tried windows 10 when it first came out and it frustrated me so I uninstalled it....

    2 weeks ago I installed it on a spare HD and it was a nice experience, it found all the drivers for things it could not find last year/ it even found a driver for an old wifi card and another newer long range wifi card that had no win10 support...

    I like it now.
     
  2. Monchis

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    Worse os since win98 lol, I have to be manually disabling their stupid antivirus all day long because it interferes with my various script tools and makes my pc sluggish, and I have to clear memory manually before a few games so they won´t stutter (whiche were always fine on win7).
     
  3. tsunami231

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    shocker. then again I disabled the task shedular on my win7 systems so that GWX couldnt even run or start up. In the end they want everyone on win 10 and they tricked alot people into doing so
     
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    When it was released Windows 10 had some "hiccups" , but now with the 14.393 build vesion it is well polished and I'm happy using it everyday :)
     

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    The problem is, Windows 10 remains a very broken thing not for the things it breaks, but how things are getting broken.

    The current method of Windows Updates in Windows 10 lacks any real form of control, and this isn't a desired control born from paranoia, but it's an issue of productivity; most updates are good and should be installed, but through the years I've found a handful of updates I've chosen to not install during an update cycle only to find that those updates get pulled or patched further because they caused undesired effects on systems, OR on the other hand, some updates I choose not to install is because it breaks something else that I currently require working at that point in time, so I update everything else but hold off on that one or two patches for a month or so, thus ensuring stability.

    They've made being able to choose which updates get installed require a separate tool (which we don't know how long they're going to keep it working and updated), and even worse, they're choosing to disclose less technical information on updates themselves, making it harder to identify what changes and what subsystems will be touched and avoid potential conflicts beforehand.

    But the worst of it? The big "updates" every six months which are clearly just in-place windows upgrade installs. (think "Upgrade" option when installing Windows 7 over Windows Vista, and the like)

    I HAD installed Windows 10 from when it was first offered, but the cycle of it breaking things and me scrambling to fix them every month or so was too time consuming, and thus ultimately had to reformat this computer in November back to Windows 7 to ensure that I spent less time fixing things and more time actually getting things done.

    I think the LTSB is the edition that will solve my issues with Windows 10, but those are Enterprise-only, confusingly enough.
    What we all need is an LTSB version of Windows 10 for the consumer, not just enterprise.
     
  6. Elder III

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    It was a dick move by Microsoft... people should not be coerced into installing it (even if "accidentally").

    I'm not excusing them at all for it. At the same time I think Windows 10 is good and it would be foolish for the vast majority of people to not upgrade while it was free. It's not hard to disable the alleged spying features or Cortana either. With about 10 minutes of tweaking it's a great OS.
     
  7. PhazeDelta1

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    Also, the fact that it automatically deletes programs without consent is another thing that aggravates me to no end.
     
  8. BarryB

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    Class Action Lawsuit then?
     
  9. tsunami231

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    yah i am noticed this alot lately just CU updates seem to do this or block programs from starting that worked just fine before the CU
     
  10. KissSh0t

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    Windows 10 was pushed too aggressively!??!?

    No ****ing **** Sherlock.

    *edit*

    Lol you had the same thought xD

     
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  11. tsunami231

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    Hey atlest we have very good chance of DX12 actual becoming the defacto API used instead of DX9 still being used in this day in age.... maybe... probably not
     
  12. The Laughing Ma

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    Hold on can you clarify this in a little more detail, during my rush to find as much reason to hate Win 10 as I could find I seem to have missed this fact. (just kidding about finding reason to hate on Win 10 I just didn't want to be forced to use it, that's all.)
     
  13. tsunami231

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    When Upgrading from say Win7/8 to Windows 10 programs can be deleted, when Upgrading from 1 build of win 10 to another build (TH2>RS1) programs can be deleted

    I had it happen to Spybot S&D on 3 diffrent machines when upgrading from win 7/8 to win 10 and again when upgading from 1 build to another
     
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    Only there are two cameras, an accelerometer, two microphones, a gyro, a GPS/GLONASS and a ton of other stuff that you carry with you wherever you are.

    It's funny how all the privacy nuts are ok with Android. Not that I approve of Windows 10, but it at least allows you to close more things than Android ever will. And before you say you can make Android safe while rooting it at the same time to close basic services, then you truly have no clue.
     
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    I'm not convinced of that. They admitted it happened but not that it was done on purpose. If it was, that's bad of course, but I'm not convinced.
     

  16. Lex Luthor

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    I have some contracts on PC's with several private individuals. It was a nightmare when I went to fix problems (satisfy the user) because they had unknowingly updated to W10.

    W10 free? Where?
     
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  17. Neo Cyrus

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    Now if auto update could only be disabled on ENTERPRISE versions of Windows 10...
     
  18. KissSh0t

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    It would be nice if they put back the ability to control windows update like previous versions of Windows...
     
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    if they ever bring back the free upgrade option I might go for it- NOT!
     
  20. Irenicus

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    LOL this makes me laugh

    I mean unless you're a luddite, nothing was pushed on you.

    Any savvy PC gamer always has Windows updates and BITS turned off....
     

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