MediaTek back at it and develops Helio X30 SoC

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Late 2015 there was a rumor about a new high-end SoC from MediaTek being developped to follow up the X20. Then it remained silent for a while yet last week the rumors returned, this time with benchmar...

    MediaTek back at it and develops Helio X30 SoC
     
  2. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    Cool. The more the merrier.

    What I wanna know is...Why is 64 bit Android held back?
    Why are perfectly 64 bit capable mobile Android platforms still running 32 bit Marshmallow?
     
  3. SetsunaFZero

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    because RAM
    no need for 64bit OS when most phones have under 3GB RAM. btw the new SAM Note 7 will have 6GB of RAM
     
  4. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Galaxy S7, S7 Edge, S6 Edge, LG G5, HTC 10, One+ 2, Asus ZenPhone 2, Note 7... all have 4GB+. So for the flagship phones it would pay off indeed.
     

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    vazup Master Guru

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    Flagship phones are minorities by a big margin though..
     
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    The real reason is Google is not pushing for it. iOS has been 64-bit for years now, and Apple pushed for developers to make a 32-bit and a 64-bit variant of each app, or only support the newer 64-bit SoC's. The highest amount of memory an iPhone has is 2gb, but there is still a performance gain using 64-bit extensions versus 32-bit extensions.

    It also makes sense that Google does not push for 64-bit like Apple did. Android is open source, and is used on a variety of products because of this.

    Also there have been phones with 3gb+ for years now. The old US Galaxy S3 had 3gb of ram even.
     
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    dcx_badass Ancient Guru

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    Mediatek are closed source un-optimised junk. There's a reason pretty much no mainstream manufacturer will touch them and they just keep throwing cores at their CPU's to try cancel out the other issues.
     
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    It actually had 2GB, both the us and lte editions, international edition had 1gb.
     
  9. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    MOAR CORES!

    Reminds me of some other CPU manufacturer competitions of the past.
     
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    pimpineasy Master Guru

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    yeah **** chip set id gladly take a flamethrower to any of there products. they suck at copying arm and reltek
     
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    Reardan Master Guru

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    There is a performance gain in limited circumstances and a memory hit in all circumstances. Running a 64 bit OS with 64 bit programs requires a lot more memory in most cases. According to Anandtech's testing, the move to 64 bit on iOS accounted for 20-30% more memory usage on average, 60% more in the worst case. It just doesn't make sense.
     

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