Massive Leak: AMD RYZEN CPUs

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  1. Anarion

    Anarion Ancient Guru

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    It's still nowhere close to 4 GHz let alone max boost Intel chips can do. It all depends on how well it will overclock.
     
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    quite true. im just amused. a few folks got borderline hysterical suggesting that the chips wouldnt even bin to ~3.5ish...

    of course the major question is IPC efficiency. all in due time!
     
  3. GeniusPr0

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    5960x 4ghz would be a 200w cpu.
     
  4. jura11

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    What I know 5960x can boost up to 3.5GHz and this one should boost to similar levels

    This chip is 8c/16t and all depends on IPC, for me personally is most important multi performance more than single core performance

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     

  5. Turanis

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    Hopefully this CPU will have real 8 cores,this will be enough for me.

    What about your avatar? It is terrible or not?
     
  6. Amx85

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    That name no sounds bad...

    +3.40GHz (Maybe 3.45GHz (34.5x100MHz)) stills sounds great on 8 Core @95w other thing we can´t talk about monothreaded performance (on stock clocks) because we don´t know the "Max Turbo" (1 Thread per Core) Frequency, it could be 4.25GHz with "Turbo" (All Cores) @3.85GHz

    i hope the best
     
  7. RooiKreef

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    This is looking very good for AMD. I wonder what Intel will have on the table by the time AMD brings their new CPU's.
     
  8. Undying

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    Hah, Intel will have 400Eur Kaby Lake quad-cores, no thanks.

    This is going in favor of AMD.
     
  9. SSD_PRO

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    I hope these RYZEN chips overclock well. While Intel still has 4c/8t in the mainstream market (as does AMD since this is all rumor and speculation), they turbo to 4.2/4.5 and overclock to 4.5/4.7 with ease. The high clock helps in so many games and is most meaningful to the majority of applications. If AMD gives 8c/16t at 3.4 and overclocks to 4.2 with ease, all is good and we have a much needed symbolic pounding of Intel's greedy butt. If RYZEN 8c/16t struggles to get to 4, there will be some hurt team red butts out there as the results in most real world applications will sink.

    edit - and that RYZEN chip would need to be under 550. If more it wouldn't really be an advancement; it would just be a doubling of the price for double the cores/threads.
     
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  10. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    I think we need to just calm down people!
     

  11. sverek

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    We really really really need to stop directly comparing clock speed with performance. We not living in 20th century anymore.
    Different CPU architecture take different number of clocks to execute an instruction.

    While I am skeptical Zen is aiming for maximum per core performance, makes me wonder how well CPU will perform overall.
     
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    We need to know how the type of cooling used will affect how this cpus overclock as this will be a huge factor for most enthusiasts. I am hoping 4.3Ghz~4.5Ghz on custom water cooling loop , 4.1Ghz~4.3Ghz on high end air cooling and AIO H2O set ups.
     
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    ATM it's all about the 40% IPC gain claim versus FX running at 4.5-4.8GHz. 3.4 x 1.4 is FX@4.8GHz so nothing's changed (bit of baby math lol). Starting with the maxed out predecessor as a baseline isn't very glamorous, even though it's a good start if it pulls another GHz with the OC.
     
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    I really hope those CPUs deliver good performance at a decent price because Intel´s prices are getting ridiculous...

    Also i don´t understand why some guys continue to complain about the supposed speed of Zen cpus because it´s only natural that an eight core cpu is going to have a lower speed than a four core cpu...

    And lastely, Ryzen is a terrible name!!! C´mon who´s the idiot who cames up with this ****ty names!!!
     
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    Zen IPC is 40% over Excavator Core, Excavator is 30-35% higher IPC than Vishera (2nd gen FX), 1.3x1.4 is near 1.8x, then... 3.45GHz Zen = 6.28GHz FX

    34% over FX9590 at 1/3 Power compsumition...
     
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  16. schmidtbag

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    Seems like a marketing gimmick to me. It's basically just the inverse of Turbo Boost, which scales down performance when cooling isn't adequate. It's much more appealing to say "this goes faster under ideal conditions" rather than "this runs at full speed but will slow itself down when it gets too hot".
     
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    I will be blunt this time...
    Show me where Intel have 8 core cpu with 4+Ghz or shut up.

    Intel have 3.2 GHz base clock 8 core, it have higher TDP and cost $1100+ and require much more expensive mainboard to start with.
     
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    It depend, if you have water cooling you are most likely running on max boost already for me on Sandy runs with temps around 48 degrees after 2h 100% run with fans set to 700rpm and 42 degrees with fans on 1200rpm.
     
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    "Ryzen"

    :puke2:

    I'll buy it anyway.
     
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    I said what they can do. They are extremely conservative with their stock clocks for 6 and higher core parts. They overclock well past their stock speeds.
     
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