Malaysian Airliner With 295 Onboard Shot down Over Ukraine

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    Cant believe that Sky news reported went through the luggage of one of the passengers while being live! wtf was he thinking?!
     
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    I'd probably do something stupid too after seeing piles and piles of mangled corpses, but maybe I'm just a wimp.
     
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    Why would Ukraine fly them over an area where their military planes been shot down when they could of gone another route, this seems like Ukraine set this up.
     

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    37,000ft is the no fly zone altitude however the plane was at 38,000ft when it was hit by the SAM going at around the speed of Mach 3.

    I said the same to my wife, "Why the hell were they flying over an active Warzone"!

    Blackbox flight recorders have also been ushered off the scene.
     
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    Totally not suspicious first post.
     
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    My sincere condolences to the families of the victims.
    Also, I wouldn't trust everything that mainstream media publishes these days. I happen to find an interesting article on the subject on PaulCraigRoberts dot org. I'd provide a link, but it seems I am not allowed to post any links yet. I am new to this site. Just registered here to download TheWorse's mod to Watch Dogs a few days ago. And then I saw this thread...
     
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    The no fly zone reaches until FL320
    The plane flew at FL330
    In the flight plan was FL350 filled in but that the controller gives them later a slightly different FL is normal.

    Najib Razak twittered that Malaysian specialist will get the flight recorders at 9pm Ukrainian time at 21 July
     
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    Theyve got black boxes now! Lets see what we find out from them!

    Wasnt it flying at 33.000ft but was told to go down to 31.000ft?
     
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    Someone should string these people up, shoot them in the head whatever. No respect at all, come follow me, I show you dead bodies, yay! **** the families, let's just show their dead relatives all over youtube.
     

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    Could have been, i heard on the news yesterday it was 37k. Maybe there is something going on that we don't know about. If they were flying anywhere under 37k then they were in danger as that was the no flyzone altitude of flying over an active warzone. The plane was apparently at 38k according to dispatches reporter.
     
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    Im not sure what altitude it was flying at, but it has been confirmed they were told to go lower. Lets hope black boxes have some information.
     
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    Problem is BUK could reach it at 72,000 feet when in range.
     

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    Height is not relevant. They where flying at 31K Feet, requested 33K feet. That was denied, but it is the default altitude for commercial flights.

    Next to that the plane has a squawk code, which identifies it being a civilian airplane. Then even early model Buk missiles can strike targets at an altitude of more than 40,000 feet with the missile flying three times the speed of sound. The modern versions pass 70.000 Feet. It would have made no difference whatsoever.

    I agree though, why commercial / civilian airlines fly over war-zones is beyond comprehension. They 'assume' flights would be save at that altitude. Which again indicated that airlines pressured by low fuel consumption and economic flight models assume way too much.
     
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    I read that MA is now diverting flights over Syria >_<
     
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    I recall reading a week or so ago that 3 major airlines had no plans to redirect.

    But yeah, MA going over syria http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...ines-flies-over-Syria-instead-of-Ukraine.html
     
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