Thought I would just give some props for the good old 8800Ultra @ 650/1116 oc. Since I had to RMA my 5970 I bunged this old beast back in. And you know what? it still holds fine really If I was average joe this would be all I need. BFBC2 60FPS 1920x1200 Vsync, tripple buffer, everything maxed out alas DX9 60fps with occasional dips to 50fps. GTA4 Liberty City Stories, 1920x1200, high textures shadows high, everything else very high including water, reflections and night shadows 80/100/51. 30 FPS V sync and tripple buffer. Metro 2033 DX9, 1920x1200 everything on max settings 30 fps. Hell I thought going back to the 8800U from my 5970 will be an awful experience, know what? this old bastard still holds up fine for an old card. Props to Nvidia. But on a side note, it made me realise ATI drivers are not all that bad at all. I hate the fact Nvidia drivers don't remember which side my HDTV is on (left) and it keeps getting the refresh rate on it wrong, messing with the position of my icons and had problems with media player classic and certain filters.