Why do we absolutely need to be disappointed beyond belief if it doesn't perform better than Vega 56 and 64? Why expecting it to be a rebrand of Vega56 and Vega64 will make it any less of a disappointment? Can't we expect AMD to deliver and then if they are not just be meh it's more of the same? I dunno i just don't see the point of not expecting a company to improve upon it's past products just to avoid being disappointed. I've had enough of disappointment for 2018-2019 with RTX and Radeon VII. More wont change anything to my overall level of disappointment. So yeah i'll wait and see and hope AMD delivers. I don't expect them to release a 2080 TI equivalent but if they release a 2070 TI for a fair price it will make my day.