lets discuss 7600GT...

Well in a few reviews they actually state that the new 7 series was built for Vista, and if you read here>http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/7300___7600_Series.html it mentions Vista again in the specs.

i cant offer any more info im just going off what ive read, but yeah can somone else shed some light on it please.

 

Its really confusing... Because if WINDOWS VISTA is not backward compatible means only DX10 runs on VISTA. So if 7600GT is built for VISTA then its a DX10 compatible card right?

 

Yeah though it might be compatible its not compliant, or vice verser im not sure which.

 

Anybody who knows if 7600GT a DX10 compatible card? Your info is more welcome...

 

In directx10 games it'll prolly fall back on dicrectx9. I dunno.
The whole built for vista thing, I dunno, could just be a marketing trick.

 

as far as i read from websites and articles.....it says that there is a very big possibility that Vista is a DX10 and maybe will not be backwards compatible with DX9...

 

so you concur that if the latest 7 serries card are built for WINDOWS VISTA then those cards supports DX10 or capable to operate DX10 sets of instructions?

 

Just a heads up, UPS is scheduled to deliver my 7600GT tomorrow so look out for an impressions thread with benchmark and overclock results.

 

Well neither MS or the reliable sources i read have confirmed it yet its only a speculation(EDIT)....truly....maybe they will be since there are so many games on them and for manufacturers to write them in new code is more money and resources.....so there is still chance.....

 

yeah, afaik, the 7 series aint fully DX10 compliant (will prolly work but wont support the next gen feature), as their still using Shader Model 3.0 in opposed to the supposed to be DX10 SM4.0, anyone saw Crytek's Crysis next gen DX10 game? it was still in hardware emulated stage since no hardware supports DX10 yet.

(and isnt it that G80 series will be the DX10 compatible ones?_

 

Answer guys: Vista will have full D3D10 and DX9.0l functionality; ie it will support both DX10 and legacy cards (back to SM2.0).

D3D10 is a new API (Application Program Interface), and unlike previous DX versions, is built from scratch. Thus API operating overheads will be reduced, and API calls (read gpu requests) streamlined.

DX9.0l is reportedly the final version of DX9.0, and will run on both Vista and XP. Whether Vista offers any enhancement to DX9 is yet to be seen.

In conclusion, current "Vista ready" cards will run with the new OS fine, but will not run under the DX10 API.

 

I can bench my 6600GT SLI to 7850+ in 3dmark05 and this chart shows that 7900gt 256 is only like 7944... sounds like I don't need to upgrade.

 

Looks like your ok mate, is there any new tricks the 7900GT does that a 2 6600GT's in sli cant do?

Also can you sli 2 diffrent makes of card, like XFX card and a BFG card as long as both cards are clocked the same?

 

Which one you getting? im getting the XFX7600GT XXX in few hours......hopfully.

 

I have heard that you can, but if it's all the same, I'd rather just use two of the same manufacturer...just to be sure.

 

i suppose if you couldnt get hold of a same make card you could just flash the bios and make em both the same.

 

when vista rolls out, it wont support new our current library of games.. right? will xp support dx10? if dx10 is for windows vista only, then maybe we shouldnt woory about dx10 cards

 

i just read on ms vista webpage, vista supports nvidia fx5200 and up, and ati radeon 9500 and up.. i think the common denominator here is that these cards are at least dx9 sm2.0 cards..

 

the thing is that VISTA WILL RUN with any PS2.0 card

BUT

the card will not have complete dx10 support (just the driver has dx10 support) SO, you will not get all the "cool" effects of vista....

this is the SAME concept as running a ancient 3dfx card without PS support on XP , it WILL run, but you wont be able to do new dx8 stuff (introduced in XP)
like games and stuff ( thou xp doesnt do 3d stuff in windows..)

get? its just that now microsoft made things more complicated with theis dx10 and no dx9 support ...

DX9 WILL BE SUPPORTED!!! just emulated with software... <- slow , deadly slow ...

im waiting for the 8 series as i think buying a card now is quite ... uselesss and only in a few months u would upgrade again

 

And this is where we run into the reason why 3D Mark is a joke.

Yes, your SLI 6600GT setup will perform very well in 3D Mark 2005, beating the 6800GT in single card config quite comfortably, however a 6600GT SLI setup generally trails a single 6800GT in actual games, even a lot of those that support SLI very well. Make no mistake, a 6600GT SLI setup while pretty fast is not as fast as a single 6800GT setup, which is nowhere near as fast as a 7900GT in actual games (assuming all other things are equal).

If 3D Mark 2005 is all you use your system for then by all means, be happy and content with your 6600GT SLI setup, its still a very capable setup, but a 7900GT would show a massive improvement in games over a SLI 6600GT setup especially when pushed.