Leaving ATI - atikmdag: enough is enough

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by at0msk, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    Well, it's because I was looking for suggestions related to NVIDIA cards...Lyla, who continues to post squashed theories for some reason, actually started the whole fanboi rant.

    I got what I needed thanks to your suggestions! ;-)
     
  2. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    ATI users post in the nV section...because nV users constantly post in the ATI section. I've lost count of the number of nV fanbois post in the ATI section claiming how nV is superior in every way. Have seen numerous cases where someone has posted in the ATI section, asking about a specific ATI card...and had some nV fanboi immediately trash their decision (or pending decision) to buy an ATI product. I previously had a 9600GT...when it showed signs of the GPU failing, I posted a thread asking about the HD4850. First several posts were from nV fanbois telling me how much better nV cards are. Simple fact, the actual product quality is not better. Product quality is the same for both manufacturers if you buy from a board partner (Sapphire, Visiontek, Diamond, EVGA, BFG, etc). If you buy from Asus or any of the other companies building for both "camps"....actual product quality should be questioned. My only good experience with nV products, was an FX5700LE....since it, I've had a 6200, 6800, 2x7600GS, 2x8600GT, and 9600GT. Had problems with screen corruption from the 6200, performance issues from the PCIe 7600GS; screen corruption, high temps, and SLI consistantly disabling itself with the 8600GT's. The 9600GT showed signs of a failing GPU.

    As far as the problem being related to the driver. It's not. If it was in fact driver related as people keep claiming, the issue would be considerably more widespread than it is. Only way I can generate the same error is to overclock my card to 700/1105. The simple fact that my card has to be overclocked to generate the error, means it's directly related to hardware.
     
  3. PR-0927

    PR-0927 Ancient Guru

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    You're obviously blind as hell and cannot read if you think I'm a fanboy. Did you actually take the time to read what I wrote? If not, STFU and don't critique what I said - I'm bashing fanboys myself - I hate 'em.

    - PR-0927
     
  4. Icanium

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    My ..."stopped responding and recovered" was fixed by correcting my chipset and mobo drivers.
     

  5. Martys Web

    Martys Web Don Santino Corleone

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    Iarwain and Lyla I think its time you 2 stop spaming this thread I seen enough from you 2 in this thread. Stop spaming and trying to dominate this thread or you will get a tempary section ban! That goes for anyone else to.
     
  6. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    There, fixed it for you.
     
  7. Lyla

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    This. And whilst it is clear that this error is statistically more likely to spawn from the system, you should perhaps be more willing to accept help than keep crying "ATI suck its their drivers", which is clearly not the case, same for Nvidia. After all we were only posting to save YOU money.
     
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    Denial Ancient Guru

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  9. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    Spanks. :D

    I may have fixed the driver issue. By setting HT frequency to Auto (from 4x) and increasing my CPU voltage to 1.5 then lowering my memory voltage from 2.8 to 2.75.

    I have my card OC'd to 875/1227. I've been playing FEAR 2 full screen at 1920x1080 with everything maxed for hours and was able to switch to TF2 (windowed, maxed 4AA, 16AF) without a single crash. Crossing my fingers*.

    I'm just not sure why ATI cannot write a good driver. :( It couldn't handle some voltage settings. My next card will still be an NVIDIA card just because that's what I want to do.

    Lyla: \(x.x)/ :biggun:
     
  10. Lyla

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    I guess that is your way of admitting I was right all the way along.

    It is not driver, the GFX card has put more demands on your power supply/motherboard not allowing the rest of your components to be running as highly tuned as they once were.

    This is not software. Software would not care what your hardware settings were with regards of voltage, and as I said all along, we are trying to present the real solution to you so you don't waste money. Because you may have faced the exact same problems with a new Nvidia card as it will put a similar load on your power supply/motherboard.
     

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    Graphics drivers do not handle your CPU/RAM/motherboard voltage settings...think about it.
     
  12. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    It is still a problem with ATI's drivers.
     
  13. buddyfriendo

    buddyfriendo Ancient Guru

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    So when Nvidia cards do it, and don't kid yourself.. they do, is that also an ATi problem?
     
  14. Lyla

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    How can it be a driver issue, when adjusting your CPU voltage etc. fixes it. I know of no part of a video card driver that goes like this...

    if CPU voltage < 1.5 volts then CRASH.

    don't be stubborn please.
     
  15. Lyla

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    It is not even the card doing it, it is just windows reporting it crashed while in 3d mode. The crash most likely comes from motherboard/cpu/mem, and *can* come from GFX, but that is usually a sign of overclocking or poor power supply. But rarely is it a driver issue if it happens in a variety of 3d applications.
     

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    at0msk Member Guru

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    Still a driver issue. Just happened again randomly.

    Lyla, I don't understand why you're still trying. You've been proven wrong time and time again.
     
  17. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    It is the problem of both parties respectively. No one has to build their computer around what a graphics card likes. I'll be damned if I need to rebuild my system just to get a graphics driver to work without fail.

    It's a driver issue through and through and that's that.
     
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    Terrorizor Ancient Guru

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    as weird as this sounds,..


    go into CCC and under preferences,. uncheck system tray menu,(while your at it put your gpu clocks back to default).restart and now try.
     
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    The fact that stabilising your motherboard settings make a single difference, proves me right on this.

    Drivers are not random, hardware on its limit is.(heat/voltage etc.)
     
  20. at0msk

    at0msk Member Guru

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    I've already done this. It doesn't matter either way.

    Driver issue
     

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