I don't think it's strange or unexpected at all. It costs ****-all to have Hyper Threading included, people just think it's costly because Intel charge a left nut for it with their BS monopoly holding an iron grip on the market. If AMD's implementation of HT is anything like the Intel's classic variation, there's very little hardware or increased cost that goes into it. Pray to Buddah, Poseidon, FSM, or whoever your prefered character is, that AMD will finally force some competition.
Ryzen list Just my 2 cents worth....This info is gleaned from an unknown source that got his/her info from an unknown source. In my book that means to totally ignore any and all info until there is word from the horses mouth I.E. AMD themselves. Until then there is no credible information regarding the Ryzen here.
for now even a I3 can beat a middle segment from AMD that have more core, and the best that AMD have done is at a high performance I5... and on pro segment last server with AMD that i have seen where on G34, years ago (not energy friendly, not powerfull and more expensive than Xeon equivalent). so why do they have to change? Intel where nearly without concurence. it's good to have money without working isn't it? so don't blame them more on topic it is good that AMD wake up.
sadly it is impossible all the 11** socket can't handle 6 core by hardware limit (it's not like the AM* series from AMD)
It's also the fact that AMD hasn't sold CPUs with locked capabilities, like ever. I can't remember if they ever did that.
I highly doubt that this "leak" is even remotely accurate. While these CPUs in these configurations might be sold at some point, I doubt they will use these names. Especially the comparison to the Intel counterpart makes no sense... unless Ryzen will be worse than we expect: How does a 8C/16T Ryzen (aka "R7 1700") share the performance of a 4C/8T intel (i7-7700)? We nearly have such a multithreaded performance when we face an ancient 8c bulldozer against the i7-7700... This news makes no sense. Probably just some trolly bull**** someone pulled out of their butts. Let's wait for the official announcement instead of these unreliable bollocks rumors
It's going to take amd's 8/16 zen to compete with i7 6700k/7700k??? A 4/8 CPU? I hope that's some kind of joke or something? I still feel they won't be able to catch intel in the gaming benchmarks but I am hyped to see how this is going to play out! Iam not buying anything until I see user benchmarks from Zen. I was about to pull the trigger on Kaby-lake 7700k but I will wait this out.
Smart move actually. So Joe Average can see at a glance i3 = R3, i5 = R5, i7 = R7. Better than having to memorize two entirely different naming schemes and additionally remembering which compares to which.
This chart seems sketchy to me. I thought that AMD was aiming for the stock clocks to be what this chart has as the boosts?
Im thinking that these comparisons to intel performance could be single thread performance and if that is the case then these are good numbers
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I don't necessarily think the chart is real either - but as far as 8/16 sharing with 4/8 - the clockspeed on the 4/8 is significantly faster. So basically any application that isn't multithreaded is going to heavily favor the Intel chip. And when AMD is selling these to customers, they can't just price/compare them with apps that have perfect multithreaded scaling. The majority of general PC applications won't benefit at all from the extra cores.
Bs For all it worth this line up is utter BS. No sane marketing specialist at AMD would name CPUs this close to GPUs. On top of that this naming look like old ATI's naming for their GPUs. So I call BS on all of it.
you guys have been at this since morning so I'm going to jump in:nerd: aside form the fact that there is no way we can know for sure the charts are real, if it is remotely true and that is a big IF, what is AMD is actually thinking out side the box, what IF they are going to rise the bar a notch, we are so used to AMD being behind and INTEL not giving something new. what if we are to expect a better product, more core/TH at the same price or less, again maybe wishful nerdy thinking :nerd: one more speculations maybe the X and Pro stands for more than the Intel K stands for. less than a month to see what Hilbert and Guru3D got for us in a review. we just gonna have to wait and see.:infinity:
Line up is probably real, but performance comparison is a total hoax. Or even probably false marketing.
I will upvote the joke; this can't be real. 8c16t zen can't be "comparable" to a 6700/7700 4c8t cpu. That would be a disaster for the market and AMD. Even if it maxes out 1GHz slower something would have to be really wrong with the architecture or instructions of the zen chip. Even while difficult to compare x.x ghz on one chip to x.x ghz on another, it is this "news" that specifies the "comparable". Pfft and wait for the next "news".
If the chart is real, it doesn't say that the ryzen and the intel counterparts directly across are competing in performance... The only metric given is MHz. There is no denotation there that describes what the metric is for the comparisons... Could be performance.. Could be price... could be simply the teiring of the individual lineups as best/2nd best/3rd best/4th best... no mention of the metric is made, as far as I can see.