LCD 22-25in gaming monitor with 120hz refresh

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  1. momomo67890

    momomo67890 Ancient Guru

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    i have both i had viewsonic but now its in closet now. i have a samsung t240hd and the view sonic didn't match so i got the samsung so they match now ^_^ b/c there side by side
     
  2. ElementalDragon

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    I wouldn't even consider a 120hz LCD at this point.... especially since they don't have any over 22" right now. I'd thought about it at one point.... getting a 22" 120hz display.... but i don't see myself using it much while i still have my 24" Gateway. When 120hz 24" monitors start coming out..... and maybe won't cost double the price of a 60hz monitor of the same size.... then it might be considered as an option.

    Falkeri: pretty sure i said i'm not even gonna bother trying to explain it again.... because you quite obviously still seem to have no freakin clue what i was trying to get at.
     
  3. momomo67890

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    but the point of 120 hz is for gaming and if you game 24 inch is not a good thing ....
     
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    The point of 120hz is for 3D gaming. How come gaming with a 24 inch monitor is not a good thing? If you have the machine to run 1920x1080, 1920x1200 or higher, why would you use anything less? People buy a 60" tv to game, I don't see how a 24" is suddenly so bad.
     

  5. momomo67890

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    well there's no point in a 120 hz screen if your playing any mmorpg , rts or just about anything but, fps type games ... also 3d gaming is a gimmick
     
  6. bp9801

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    Then 120hz is also a gimmick because in nearly every case I've seen, the companies simply add in the middle frame. Therefore, it says 120hz but in reality, its 60hz with an added frame to make it appear smoother.
     
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    None of us would have ever guessed.

    The Samsung 2233RZ is a true 120 hz display. ;)
     
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    Well does anyone have a recommendation of a decent 75hz? I have one, but it's only 1440x900...and I like the smoothness difference, I just need bigger res, obviously.
     
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    Are there even any 1920x1080@75Hz/1920x1200@75Hz monitors? If so, I'd imagine they would be pretty pricy.
     
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    Edit: Wrong thread D:
     
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  11. ElementalDragon

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    Jonp: congratulations on reading my comment! i'd say ignorance is your reward, but you seem to already have that. I said the only time i'd consider a 120hz display is if they come out in 24" models, and if they're at least somewhat similarly priced to 60hz displays of the same size. Can't see the point in buying a 120hz 24" monitor for what would probably wind up being around $800 at this point, when a 60hz 24" monitor is easily available for half of that.

    And it's funny.... because the Samsung 2233RZ is a 120hz monitor that costs roughly double that of most other 22" monitors, but from what i've read, has a rather crappy feeling frame and stand. Another reason i'd rather stick with my 24" Gateway for now.

    I jumped on the LCD train shortly after LCD's came out, and my first LCD was a Samsung SyncMaster 175v 17". I won't be jumping on the 120hz kick just as quickly. I'll wait till some issues might get worked out, such as the idea of needing a special driver to get 120hz to work.
     
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    I read your post. You also wrote this;

    Being that 120 hz obviously offers no benefits over 60 hz and is actually worse, you would not and should not consider it.

    @ Iarwain, virtually no displays, especially over 1440x900, can display 75 hz. Even if it's listed as being capable, it'll display 4 frames and drop the fifth or something along those lines. So you're still getting 60 fps.
     
  13. Corrupt^

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    Meh cba with that, it's not as if I use my screen to exercice. Ordered mine today for €329. Probably going to sell my current screen for about €70 or so.

    Small note: I don't play on 30 fps, I mainly play CS Source, which runs at a constant 100 fps and a server offering 100 updates/sec as well :)

    Have to agree with most of you though that if you're not getting a high fps, the 120Hz becomes rather pointless.
     
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    im sorry but THIS ^ is a myth made up by casual gamers
     
  15. LinkDrive

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    +1
    Quoted for truth.
     

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    Not entirely. When I'm looking at someone playing, I can't tell the difference between 60 or 100 fps. But when I'm playing CS:S and it drops from 100 to 80, I'll notice. Just even the mouse becoming a little sluggish pisses me off then.

    Feeling the difference =/= Seeing the difference.
     
  17. Corrupt^

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    Bumping this for anyone who cares:

    I just got my 2233RZ Samsung and I have to say I'm amazed how much difference there is between this screen and other normal lcds.

    When playing a SP like stalker at 40 - 70 fps the difference is indeed quite small, perhaps the only difference is that there's less ghosting when turning around quickly.

    But when I play a match in css, capped at 120 stable fps... dear god, it almost feels as if I'm back on a crt. It won't make you better if you're a bad player but it makes all your shots land way more consistent.

    Imo, if you just play SP's and don't really care about playing better then other people, it's a waste of money, but if you want the extra edge or just play more consistent, it's deffo a good buy if u got the cash to spare.

    To put it quite simple, in CS:S :

    cl_updaterate 100, cl_cmdrate 100 = 100 frames are being updated every single second, up and downstream. With an average LCD, you'd miss out on 40 of those frames. With this new samsung I actually see all 100 updates and the whole game, shooting, registry, feels way more consistent.
     

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