Kingpin: Reloaded Revealed

Discussion in 'Games, Gaming & Game-demos' started by Kolt, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. insp1re2600

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    on that note, i probably wont.
     
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    If that's how you feel. :)

    There are a lot of people excited at the prospect of playing Kingpin with a more balanced, finely tuned gameplay loop.
    While yes, a lot of people want something new that they've never experienced before. There's also a huge demand for older titles to be brought back, polished up a little and made available and easier to run on modern PCs.
     
  3. Smokey25

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    Polish this up properly though. Like i said in my previous post, add in more random npc's going around or having a rando converstation. Add in more random junk laying around and ,more furniture indoors. Anythng that would add to the atmosphere,because in these times it can feel like a "dead" game with no feel to it. You need to add something if you want this to sell.
     
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    The goal is to improve the gameplay of the original game.
    Update the lighting, shadows and such. Modifying level props, NPC placement is not part of that.

    Specially since Kingpin is designed around having certain NPCs in certain locations. The world is not supposed to feel overly alive, the empty, almost desolate feeling is part of Kingpin's oppressive world.
     

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    I wont mind it myself,but i want this game to sell well,so maybe in the future there is a possibility for a King pin 2. Im not sure if when this game is being put on steam that it will get alot of positive responses when not much has changed besides the graphics. Adding more random junk/furnite will still be possible ?
     
  6. Damien_Azreal

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    Current release "window" is 2020. No month/date has been announced yet.
    The team have a goal they are working towards, but, don't want to rush the project.
     
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    Let them take their time. Kingpin's worth good attention to gameplay.
     
  8. bobblunderton

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    Man I want to play this game. I was 17 when this game came out.
    Back in 99 a (broke!) friend pirated it, so I wanted to play it after seeing it. Not wanting to steal (pirate) the thing (as I worked whenever I could so I could have a nice PC), I never did get to play it, as no one sold it that I could find. By the time I could snag used copies on Amazon, it was past it's prime many years later.
    That and Soldier of Fortune.
    Maybe they'll add optional ray tracing. Surely NVIDIA would sponsor some of that. Can't be that hard if they did it with Quake II.
    I'll always buy old games if they run (well I have DOS BOX too, if only for Whiplash and Simtower), surely, but I want to support the publisher/developers like GOG does legitimately, to support the idea of keeping good old FUN games alive.
    I like games where you don't need a college course to figure them the heck out. If I want something super complicated like today's games, that feels like work, I will do something that earns myself money! I like simple.
     
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  9. bobblunderton

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    100% you have my money when I see it on Steam! I will make sure to tell a few friends. Someone just brought it up in the last few months in conversation, I will have to tell him. He will surely want to buy it, too.
    Looks awesome though. The little bit of modern polish helps give it the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses perfectly without killing the atmosphere.
    Edit: Sorry for the double post, used to another forum that combines them automatically.
     
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    Darn, would have loved that SiN remaster, not least because that remastered screenshot looks so good!

    Clearly improved over original but 100 % authentic.

    What happened?
     

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    I'm not entirely sure.
    It sucks, but... at this point, there's nothing that can be done.

    But, at least 3DR got Kingpin. :)
     
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    Well, I for one will purchase the game no questions asked. I played the original and used the alias of TiMb@LiN (West Side USA) I thought the game was fun especially the multiplayer side. Hopefully we get a few more to come back and play as well as new gamers.
     
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    On what platforms are you looking to release?
    I've only recently bought the original on GOG, it would be nice to have both on GOG alone, since I'm transitioning as much as I can to GOG.
     
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    PC (naturally), Xbox One, PS4 and Switch.

    Right now, it's planned for Steam. But, it's a safe bet to expect it on 3D Realms website store and GoG.
     
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    When will we hear about any updates to the remake?
     

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    As soon as we have something to announce. :)
    Sorry, the team is working very hard, and hopefully we'll have something soon. But, at the moment, just hard at work to make sure it's done right.
     
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    This game has aged pretty badly so everything needs a serious makeover. Bad language and a Cypress Hill beat is not going to win over gamers in 2020.
    You can improve the gameplay but it will still not be very impressive in 2020 so improving the visuals are key in my opinion.

    I liked this game in 1999 but it really needs a lot of work to make me buy this game again especially if it's above the 15 euro price range.
     
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    The goal is not really to win over people by competing with other 2020 releases.
    The goal is to take a classic game, that a lot of people have affection for, and improve it.

    Visuals are getting updated, slightly. But, not to the point of remaking the entire game. Models will be left as they are, maybe weapon models will be improved.. but, that has not been decided just yet.
    Textures, could be improved... but again, that's not final.
    Lighting, proper widescreen... those are definite.

    The main goal is to improve the gameplay. To make the game what it truly should have been.
     
  19. Rafnagud

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    I'm not talking about competing with 2020 releases i'm talking about a minimum standard.
    Seriously when i saw the trailer i thought it was a joke but it wasn't. If this is not getting proper
    new textures and more graphical enhancements why release it? Wait another year and do it
    properly or simply release it as a gameplay mod.
     
  20. Damien_Azreal

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    Because, the trailer... did not use final footage. It was made to announce the game. Everything is considered place holder until the game is released.

    The "Enhanced" mode will be 4K compatible, native widescreen, global illumination, updated shadows, ambient occlusion, in game AA..
    As I said, updated textures are a possibility and is something the team are looking at. But, the key is to not loose the feel of the original game's visuals.
    Updated models, again... possible... but a very, very small possibility. But people should not plan on it.
    And, with the Kingpin Community Council that was announced, fans will be able to play test and offer direct feedback so we can make it the best possible version of Kingpin.


    But, why release it? Because the main goal is the fix the core gameplay as well as update the visuals.
    A big focus of the Enhanced release will be to better balance the game's difficulty and pacing. Weapons, quests and inventory. How the player is informed during their time with the game.
    Do you know how many people had/have no idea you could loot enemy bodies for money? There are still people who were unaware of that, because the game never tells you.

    It's about making Kingpin the best game it could be.
     

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