Just bought a 660 Ti. Worse performance than my 6870. What's going on?

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  1. CoffeeCrazy

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    Heaven ran very well with those settings, 30-40fps, at 99% load.
    GTAIV still runs poorly.
    Skyrim, which I didn't set to maximum performance, now fixed, runs at 60fps pretty much everywhere except Whiterun, where it gets down to about 52FPS.

    The Maximum performance setting seems to help a small amount.
     
  2. DSparil

    DSparil Ancient Guru

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    Whiterun? What about Markarth? lol, all of those waterfalls tend to cause some people issues. Soo given that everything else is doing fine, have you considered maybe its the game GTAIV? Some games are just coded like crap and run like garbage no matter what.
     
  3. Noisiv

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    "Worse performance than my 6870"

    Really? Yet no mention of 6870fps, and everything you've said so far seems to indicate your system works just fine.
    If you want 60fps locked in those CPU hogs that you play, get i7-3960X @ 5.5GHz.
     
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    Sorry about that! I'll clarify:

    Radeon 6870
    GTAIV Medium Settings: 60FPS locked
    GW2 Ultra Settings (Shadows/Reflections Disabled): 60FPS locked (Not including WvW)
    Skyrim Medium Settings: 40-60FPS

    660 Ti
    GTAIV Medium Settings: 26-45FPS
    GW2 Ultra Settings (Shadows/Reflections Disabled): 45-60FPS (Not including WvW)
    Skyrim Ultra Settings: 50-60FPS

    EDIT: I'm running two monitors, only one I use for gaming, the other to see things such as Mumble/Steam. Should the Nvidia Control Panel be set to Multiple Display mode? That's what I've been using.
     
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  5. ---TK---

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    are you running with a lower cpu overclock with the 660ti vs the 6870?
     
  6. Noisiv

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    How about keep it simple for a start, and unplug 2nd monitor.

    Start MSCONFIG (Left-Click START button, write "MSCONFIG", hit RETURN)

    Then check MSCONFIG -> STARTUP,
    and MSCONFIG -> SERVICES -> HIDE ALL MS SERVICES.

    Also check your running processes. Looks like your CPU may be chewing on something, though 24fps min, while 6870 keeps 60fps seems very weird.
     
  7. tsunami231

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    wasnt there people saying Nvidia Gpu or well there drivers use more CPU then they use too, compared to older drivers and amd gpu? like said people have said GTA4 has terrible performance on the 6xx series cards and 3xx drivers. and have been for while.

    BTW this whole CPU bottlenecking is old, People here use that excuse for everything these days
     
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    Yes back then pre 275 drivers, NV drivers used more CPU cycles than AMD.
    But nothing earth-shattering, and certainly not warranting 60fps - > 24pfs minimum.

    CPU bottlenecking is not OLD, particularly not in CPU hogs like GW2, GTA IV, Skyrim.
    And particularly not if your system is not configured optimally and is happily running heaps of background crapaware.
     
  9. phatbx133

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    Something wrong with your pc even you did uninstalled everything still not enough.

    Try reinstall fresh OS Win 7 then install devices driver, then windows updates.

    Then install 660 ti with WHQL driver download.

    This should be help solve problem after reinstall OS.
     
  10. elpsychodiablo

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    I just want to buy a 660TI but after the screenshots i m a bit scared.
    Maybe i switch to 7870

    tomshardware bench the 660TI on high settings in this benchmarks it totaly sucks, but i always thinked it should be enough for GW2
     

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    Toms did not benchmark 660 Ti in GW2, but even GTX 560 is enough to keep up with 6870

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  12. CoffeeCrazy

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    No, still at 3.8. Double checked in the BIOS.
     
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    Hi all, my first post after long time lurking.
    Your card is only running at PCIE 1.1 That might be the problem. Possibly still driver problems or not seated correctly.


    Regards
     
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    thats probably an idle pic of gpuz
     
  15. CoffeeCrazy

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    Says x16 2.0 with a game running. I'll reseat the card in a while, busy atm.

    EDIT: Reseated, no change.

    Is it possible it's just that this card is new, and the drivers may not be ready enough for older CPU's like mine, or something?
     
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    Nah that CPU is strong enough np
     
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    I just noticed that Driver Fusion didn't remove all the entries, in fact, a ton are still there. Apparently the free version can't delete everything. I also tried ATIman, but that just stalls after launch while it looks for CCC.

    Any alternatives that are free?
     
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    Driver Sweeper
     
  19. elpsychodiablo

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    Maybe the low Bandwith is the problem wiht 660TI

    8xMSAA
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    4xMSAA

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    2xMSAA

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    FXAA

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    NO SS

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    660TI is a nice card if just use FXAA or no AA.

    For me the problem is i want to switch to NVIDA, but the next good card 670 is to expansive. Looks like i keep up with ATI one Generation more, the 7870 looks good and cheap.
     
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