ATI drivers aren't terrible, they just aren't as good as Nvidia's ones, they just tend to have less features, and are abit slow with game support, but in my experience they actually work better with an HDTV and a refresh rate of 23.976. I'm round sorting issues for my mate and his 4870 every week or so, and its rarely a problem with ATI drivers, and the one who has a 5870 has yet to even mention an issue. So many of these threads seem to just be full of people repeating the same stuff over and over.... "Don't get a 5870, the drivers suck" or "Don't get a GTX480, its hotter than the sun" If ATI drivers were that bad, they would have people defecting in the tens of thousands daily, and if the new Nvidia cards were as too hot, then no one would buy them. We all know Nvidia has better drivers, and we all know ATI have cooler cards, no point repeating the same info over and over. Sat night rant over :wanker: Edit: TruMutton_200Hz ah, well, no idea how well it works though, but didn't know that.