970 is a tad above a 780ti now. On release the 780ti was a tad above the 970. Gm204 got better as drivers matured.
PrMinister @ Frametimes better on 290 ? Come on, take a look: http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/5 http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/7 http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/12 http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/8 GTX780 delivers a smoother gameplay in Crysis 3, Project Cars , GTA 5 etc. LINK : http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/8 ...some new games (UE4 !!!) http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/kholat-test-gpu.html http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/hatred-test-gpu.html There are games that favor AMD and some NV. Nothing new ! http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Wolfe...enstein-The-New-Order-Test-Benchmark-1121737/ Wolfenstein The New Order GTX770 30FPS more than R9280X Gaming ...some examples. I can post many many more if you want. GTX670 is very often way faster than your HD7970, how can that be ? You wanna see some Benchmarks ? It varies from game to game strong. ----TK---- @ This is not true Review from 8th May 2015 LINK: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/05/08/evga-geforce-gtx-970-ssc-acx-2-0-review/3 problem: GTX970 overclocked, GTX780Ti (stock)..... but still faster. As i said find a review with non-reference cards like ROG MATRIX Platinum 780Ti and you'll be surprised. Cards like 290/290x/780Ti/780 are very close together. Decisive is the clock speed. Ok this was my last Post in this forum, my english is too bad. Very exhausting with the GOOGLE Translater ! Sry :leave:
As I wrote in review, that French has same temperature for both tubes (going into radiator and from radiator). http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review,14.html It is clearly different temperature here. Now anyone who understand heat transfer and delta T effect on heat dissipation knows that if ambient is at same temperature, hotter material will be cooled down faster. Hilbert and others measuring 500W r9-295x2 got tubes to around 45°C. Those clowns have both tubes at around 60°C for 300W card, so statement that heat is not being transferred from MOSFETs to liquid would result in even cooler tubes.
There are other sites confirming the high VRM temp. I think they did made sure that the GPU got cooled and did a bad job at cooling VRM like usual. Hard to see in tests because everyone usually measure GPU temperature but once you remove the covers you can really see what's happening.
I have posted several ways how they could use card improperly and intentionally cause high temperature. Here is one more, this time unintentional: They could have had radiator in wrong direction as manual clearly states it has to be in vertical position (mounted on side of case). And both tubes must be at bottom (to prevent air disabling pump). Yes, I took mine and moved radiator around and you can here liquid moving inside as there is air. (likely to prevent leakage due to liquid expansion as it heats) Note that Hilbert had it vertically, but had one pipe above another. (I guess input one on top and output at bottom, so there were no issues with air.) Last thing is that radiator should be mounted above GPU, again to keep it running properly. But Hilbert had it below, so that point is likely not that much needed.
^^"Overclocked" this is overclocked: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/05/08/evga-geforce-gtx-970-ssc-acx-2-0-review/9 Sorry but I don't believe that those sites did anything wrong. It would be really nice if Hilbert could test it though. His current thermal camera images don't really give any real data since the covers are on. The back plate at least doesn't cool anything: There's no contact (GPU bracket blocks it and there's no thermal pads or anything). Things will get hot there.
Looks like there are vrm on the underside of the card, and that nothing cools them. Am I completely wrong?
I'm not completely sure what components there are but if those are VRM components then they aren't cooled. Even if the front side is cooled the back side can be quite hot too though considering that the PCB is quite small this time it could be that they have put some components that get warm on the back too. Custom Fury cards may be better choices. Especially if it's not cut down chip. I totally agree...
A year ago ? Take a look on the date at first The only person who is annoying here is you ! http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2015/05/08/evga-geforce-gtx-970-ssc-acx-2-0-review/3
Once you actually overclock GTX 970, it matches or is faster than stock GTX 980. Sure, you can OC 780 Ti too but GTX 970 is waaaay cheaper than what 780 Ti was. This thread is about Radeon Fury X. This is off topic so no more GTX 780 Ti stuff, okay?
In newer games the 780 ti loses at times even to the stock r9 290 :/ If you bought the card and you feel the need to defend your purchase, by all means. But newer tech comes out and older becomes obsolete. What happened to those who purchased the original titan or the titan black or even the titan x which is now an overpriced card compared to the 980 ti.
I've nothing personal against you but i think you are WAY off topic. This thread is about new radeon 300 series not about an "epic battle" between GTX 970 vx GTX 780(Ti). Nvidia section in this forum are still open last time i checked, there you can follow your personal "war". Edit: Anarion is obviously faster than me.
More thermal tests: That was during stress testing. Still, ~90c is pretty damn hot at that spot and basically means that VRM is running way hotter.
The EVGA GTX970 SSC ACX 2.0 is already overclocked ! ...but ok you have an GTX970, i understand. GTX780Ti have way more raw-power than the mid-range chip (gtx970) An 780ti oc (1150)mhz) can easily compete with GTX980 (reference) As i said 780Ti overclocked to 1100 and GTX970 see no light, even the overclocked models. Many users forgive that in Benchmarks you see mostly the reference with laughable 863mhz. Compare OC vs OC or non-reference cards http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzn...tx_780_test_wersji_niereferencyjnych?page=0,9 That's a fair comparison.
PRminister startet with Kepler here and provoked (frametimes are bad, drivers are bad etc.) http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5106589&postcount=360 This is not true ! A bit more objectivity please if you know what it is.
