It's a World of Batshit!

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  1. Solinari

    Solinari Ancient Guru

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    The flat Earth is the truth, the light, the way of the Lord. If you deny the flat Earth you deny God. God is being hidden by these Globe-L Conspirators. That is why he has chosen us, the flat Earth community to reveal him to you. I am still not sure why an all-powerful being requires the help of some of the most inept people on the plane. We are completely incompetent and have absolutely no idea what we are doing. That won't stop us. We believe in a massive conspiracy of the most epic scale and scope. We believe, nay, we know the Earth is flat because it just feels right.

    Some of our views include; The moon is self-illuminated, we have no idea how this works and the phases of the moon are simply baffling to us.

    No detectable curve anywhere. Despite being shown images that clearly have curvature and have sometimes even presented our own images with curvature, we simply disregard any semblance of curvature and blame it on fish-eye lenses (our most highly prized and favourite excuse), perspective (our most highly prized and favourite excuse), conspiracy (our most highly prized and favourite excuse), CGI (our most highly prized and favourite excuse).

    We believe that gravity does not exist, however, we have something like gravity that isn't gravity but it's like gravity, it's just not gravity, it's a bit like gravity but it's not gravity. It's "I Can't Believe it's not Gravity"! I have no idea why we dismiss gravity, I just know that we must reject it as a "theory" because "scientific theories" are just guesses despite the definition of a scientific theory specifically stating that it's not a guess.

    If you want to know more about our flat Earth reality, you will be required to take a small test to assess your potential. We have a basic grammar test which you must fail, completely. We have a spelling test which you must fail completely, despite spellcheckers. We have a maths test which you must not only fail but simply make stuff up so we can see how creative you can be. If you are in the least bit creative, you will not be accepted. Anyone with a conscience need not apply because if you make content for Youtube on the subject of the flat Earth you will be required to lie, constantly. You may gather a following and you will be required to appeal to their sense of "doing something important" whilst lying to them, this is so you can take money from fools all the while keeping them stupid, by lying to them.
     
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    Never understood if a telescope see's Mars and Mars is round, we see the moon and the moon is round, we see all the planets in our solar system that we are aware of, they're all round. But Earth is an exception? Naturally. Because humans like to think they're special. Nothing special about Earth other than it's houses it's own demise.
     
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    To be fair, gravity cannot be explained. Not on a Quantum level. So whatever anyone says about it, regardless to how dumb it may sound to you, can't be dispelled. Everyone is guessing when it comes to gravity. Everyone.

    The biggest eye opener is the Holographic principle and how it helps explain gravity. It explains that the universe, not the Earth, is on a 2D plane and 3D is a perception to us through light, like color.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/shortcuts/2017/jan/31/guide-to-holographic-principle-of-universe
     
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    ^ If to understand this correctly, there is only length and width. Depth is an illusion. Therefore volume is an illusion of the same order. Revolving solids were invented to appease crazed lunatics. Let's do away with partial differential equations, they made my head hurt; makes math easier. True believer in Ignorance is bliss. Packing up and moving the family to the Oregon Vortex. That way light can dispel all gravitational thought; balls naturally roll up hill and I am visually taller than my brother. Do not even need to worry about insects or animals there.
     

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    Yes, derivatives of higher dimensions can get us to "our reality" but the holographic principal has many holes and not accepted by most, if any, cosmologists today. But it is possible, in some universes I suppose.

    I don't think everyone is guessing about gravity, empirical data drives the theories and other than quantum gravity, gravity is understood to a great degree. Gravity MAY be exclusionary to quantum explanation... hope I see the day to definitively prove this one way or the other.

    I hope quantum gravity does exist because without it I don't see how we can achieve "apparent" faster than light travel. It'd be sad if we're stuck on Earth in human lifetime time-frames.
     
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    That's actually not true. It's has no more holes than any other theories in science. The only difference is a lot of physicists and scientists are too ignorant or afraid to look into it and give it any real merit. The ones that do are blacklisted and poked fun of, but their research shows just as much proof in the Hologram theory as any other and also shows as many unanswered questions as any other theory. The only difference is this theory scares people and makes them realize they aren't the end all be all, so naturally with that, comes resistance.

    Gravity is a wonder. If it was understood and proven - there would be no debate about it, there would be no theories. There would only be the way it works and how it works
     
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    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts.
    It's sad that people are so easily brainwashed into believing these alternative facts in today's society.
     
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    Some would say it's sad people listen and believe everything they're told without questioning it. Feel free to explain gravity for us since you have all the facts.

    And actually, I never said my point was a fact. I actually said the hologram theory has as many holes and answers as any other theory. So you're just putting words in here to help your troll and retort. I mean, if you're just going to make stuff up out of thin air, then you're being a hypocrite to what you're accusing me of LMFAO.
     
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    This guy was trying to have an argument with me about the 'flat Earth' from a show he watched on....wait for it...Sat TV.

    To be fair, you did claim 'proofs'. Proofs establish something as factual. Proofs are what we don't have. What we have is evidence and observation. From this we construct theories. All theories are not equal. That some theories are not investigated as much as others isn't evidence of a conspiracy.
     
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    Where did I claim proof? I've read my posts, I didn't see the words "proof, prove, proved". What I said was the holographic theory is just as feasible as any other theory and just as unfeasible as any other theory. I never said it was THE definitive theory and was complete proof of mankind, gravity, etc. I said it's a theory and a theory that holds as much water as any other theory out there. I never said it was proven or the answer. I said it's a theory and it's being overlooked and ignored. It deserves more attention to either prove or disprove it.

    Honestly, if I'm missing something I wrote, please show me. I;m not saying this to be a smart alec, I just don't see where I wrote that. If I did, I apologize. I'm not here to say the holographic theory is absolute. I'm here to say it's any theory and one I feel that deserves more time to be looked into rather than laughed at. But apparently I should just believe whatever CNN spews out.

    EDIT: OK, I see it. Man did you twist what I wrote. I said "It has just as much proof". Which is very little regarding all theories in this matter. Jesus....

    The Earth is not flat. We are not a hologram. And mankind is all that matters. We are the smartest, most evolved species in the universe because this is what I have been told, with no research of my own, because someone else did the research for me. Does that help me fit in better? Also, your state of living will never decline, the press is free, justice is blind and everything will be ok.
     

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    The main issue with that alternative theory is that one would not be able to reach the moon, or any other planetary body we aimed for using that theory. Gravity has equations to account for it when navigating through space. It helps explain why orbits are the way they are. That theory does not even come close. So as far as holding just as much water, depends on how big the holes in the sieve are and how fast the water is flowing into it.
     
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    My post was not critizing you but more of a general statement related to this nonsense. There are many scientific theories we take as facts simply because we can provide repeatable outcomes from experiments but that doesn't mean it's 100% true or we completely understand it.
    Nobody is saying any theories should be immediately discredited as fake but something that is so easily disproven like the Earth being flat should never be taken seriously.
     
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    Just gonna drop this here:

    https://www.space.com/25088-gravitational-waves.html

    Discovery of gravitational waves was a major (physics Nobel prize worthy) breakthrough in understanding gravity and the "logics" behind our universe in a wider perspective.

    In layman's terms large objects distort the space-time around them and this distortion can be thought of as gravitational pull.

    Imagine you suspend a ball on a hanging piece of horizontal cloth. The cloth will warp and create a bowl like shape. Any other object within the bowl will tend to roll to the bottom (=the suspended object thus "attracts" the other object).

    (The above analogy is a gross generalization and not completely accurate but helps understand the phenomenon. Similar analogy is used at the beginning of the article.
    Naturally the other object will also cause a warp ie. have its own gravitational pull. The object with more mass will be dominant and thus the observation is quite beautifully in-line with what eg. Newton and Einstein proposed.

    Once more just applied mechanics :) ).
     
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    How does NASA or any other space agency perform a gravitational slingshot with a flat earth?
     

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    Why, magic, of course!
     
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    It's a little unfair to conflate the quantization of gravity with the flat-Earther's absolute denial of its existence. They believe it's all density and buoyancy, some think it's "electromagnetism" but can't actually define or back that up either. You could say that there is the "law of gravity" and then there's the "theory of gravity". The law is that bodies with mass will attract one another in a predictable and measurable way. The theory would be why. They won't accept either because reasons.

    Space is a hoax for them, they don't believe space exists. It's all a hoax you see. They - that's the ominous ever-present nameless and faceless "they" - decided to fake space at the Illuminati gathering of 1504 (they think this is a ~500 year old conspiracy) where Bob, the head hoaxer at the Illuminati, proposed they fake something in the next few hundred years because conspiracy. Naturally, they said, "what's space?". "Something we will make up," Bob replies. "Why?". "Because if we say the Earth is a globe then the people, I mean sheeple, may work out there should be "space" because you know, we will tell them that's what there is.". "Oh, so we will make a dangerous place to go with lots of em... let me think of a word... "radiation!", right"?. Bob pauses for a moment, "No, but we will definitely use your "radiation" thing for the moon landings when it's time".

    And that's how they invented space which requires constant, consistent and unending fakery on an industrial scale because conspiracy. Of course, flattards and conspiratards all think it's so "they" (the ominous they) can syphon off a fraction of a percent of annual US GDP because people who control the world always need more money so they can buy things from other people who control the world.
     
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    So how exactly do you pull off a space hoax in the 1500s?

    Isn’t everyone supposed to be a reptile, too? Flat earth anonymous reptilians (f.e.a.r).

    There’s so many different conspiracies out there that overlap each other. It’s interesting. I lurk on a few boards and I’m slowly realizing most of these people are southern bucks. (You states fellas know what I mean, rebel flag, watch a lot of nascar, voted Trump and brags about it)
     
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    Your really showing your prejudice and, excuse me, ignorance here. But wait, you don't seem to be concerned with FACTS do you?

    Yea, your ignorance amuses me but your stereotype statements piss me off.
     

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