Italy lockdown ...how bad is the Coronavirus?

Discussion in 'The Guru's Pub' started by airbud7, Mar 10, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    567
    GPU:
    RTX 2080 Ti FE
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
    toyo likes this.
  2. Kaleid

    Kaleid Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    174
    GPU:
    MSI 5700 8GB
    Much more denialism because it's more profitable.
    Humans are an ecological disaster, we are much worse than this virus to the planet and other animals.
     
    angelgraves13 likes this.
  3. Kaleid

    Kaleid Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,496
    Likes Received:
    174
    GPU:
    MSI 5700 8GB
    "treat BLM protests preferentially, as if objective reality cares that your skin is black"
    Oh, people absolutely care. Even if you look for work and have a black sounding name then good luck, you will not be asked to an interview as often as a person with a white name. If you go to a hospital you can as a black person expect to receive less painkillers. The examples are huge in numbers.
    And as if xenophobia didn't matter. Why did a certain person in 2016 make it part of his political platform? Why was the fake caravan* story invented for the midterms? Fairly simple, it happens to work.

    *
    "The migrants, according to FOX News reporting, are more than 2 months away if any of them actually come. But tomorrow is one week before the midterm election, which is what all of this is about. There is no invasion. No one is coming to get you. There is nothing at all to worry about. When they did this to us, got us all riled up in April, remember, the result was 14 arrest. We're America, we can handle it." Shep Smith @ Fox
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
    Noisiv likes this.
  4. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    7,124
    Likes Received:
    771
    GPU:
    2070 Super

  5. toyo

    toyo Master Guru

    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    164
    GPU:
    Gigabyte 1070Ti 8G
    Nothing you mentioned has anything to do with the science behind the pandemic, not one thing.
    The virus will happily infect blacks too, at the same rate. It does not discriminate, since they're part of the same species. It's rather irrelevant for something that might not even be classified as a living organism what your skin color is, it is only driven by the its evolutionary impulse to replicate itself.
    There was a letter signed by medical experts that tried to make racism in a pandemic, in an attempt to justify the mass BLM protests. No. It's not how it works, you see, a pandemic is about pathogens that get to spread widely across the Earth. Meanwhile, I in Romania cannot care less about US politics. However, the real pandemic affects me just as well, especially as I happen to actually work as a medic.
    As I said, keep the politics OUT of science, or you discredit it. Science does simply not give a singular damn about all the outrage and feelings we're dealing in the real world.
    Each of the attempts to inject politics in science is insanely noxious and degrades the public's trust in authorities. I personally don't like it when some fundie church does it, nor when the secular religion of woke does it.
    Also, you need to put that US-centric stuff away. You have to realize the Internet is a global community with diverse problems. You don't see me coming to wash my country's dirty clothes publicly here and moan about all the ugly stuff.
    Yet for some reason, we get US politics galore, which are the most toxic of the bunch and infects almost anything. Imagine having US-inspired BLM protests (or anti-lockdown protests, those started in the US too) in countries that have basically nothing to do with all this. It HAS to be kept out, American-centrism is obnoxious and thinking that the rest of this huge planet cares about your toxic politics enough to see them alluded to and discussed non stop is a significant case of arrogance.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
  6. Reardan

    Reardan Master Guru

    Messages:
    360
    Likes Received:
    52
    GPU:
    GTX 2080
    https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-f...d-19-deaths-are-even-bigger-than-they-appear/

    It seems to be discriminating. Kind of unclear to me why you would come into a discussion that's been largely about American impact of coronavirus and complain that we're talking about it. Of course there's other countries, you guys should pipe up and talk about your experiences there instead of whining about us talking about our's. But of course you did none of that.
     
  7. toyo

    toyo Master Guru

    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    164
    GPU:
    Gigabyte 1070Ti 8G
    Not all countries are infected by racialism like the US, nor do we desire it anywhere near. It's poisonous, utter toxic shite that should be socially ostracized on both ends of the political spectrum.
    The solution is not to talk more about it and bring each country in to moan about their perceived social and cultural issues, but to keep things about medical science.
    It's irrelevant for me if I read the CT scan of libertarian rightoid that got infected while moaning about "muh freedoms and liberties" or the scan of a BLM protester that got infected moaning about muh systemic institutional racism. Your lungs look the same to me when infected and you'll suffer similar symptoms.
    Again, not everyone lives in an ethnic warfare infested country deeply divided by something as trivial as skin color. Nor should the rest of us be be subjected to your toxic racialized politics in a topic about a global pandemic.
    And keep in mind, you don't see Poles moaning about PiS winning elections, you don't see Hungarians moaning about freedom of the press and speech, you don't see Italians moaning about the infected migrants.
    It's almost exclusively Americans that have the privilege to always, always bring their toxic politics in discussion and go "Orange/commie man bad reeeee" as an explanation of every controversial event.
    Racial essentialism needs to be cause for severe social ostracization and shaming as it used to be. No exceptions.
    And don't think I take sides. Basically all my previous posts in this topic were mocking people obviously on the right posting conspiratard videos and moaning about China. It has to stop, at least in here IMO. It's unbearable and makes participation for international users a pain, as we always get faced with the same toxic US crap.
     
  8. Brasky

    Brasky Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,239
    Likes Received:
    191
    GPU:
    ASUS 1080 Strix
    quit whining.
     
  9. The Laughing Ma

    The Laughing Ma Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    4,288
    Likes Received:
    727
    GPU:
    Gigabyte 2070 Super
    So can we get this post back on topic please?

    US reports that it's Phase 1 vaccine trials worked as expected with no ill effects

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coro...ggest/ar-BB16LE0t?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

    Meanwhile in Russia.... well they reported pretty much the same thing

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...trial/ar-BB16LwBx?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

    and for anyone who wanted to have a little moan about lockdown in their repsective countries, well things could have been a whole lot worse

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...downs/ar-BB16M01P?li=BBoPRmx&ocid=mailsignout
     
    Noisiv likes this.
  10. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    6,963
    Likes Received:
    962
    GPU:
    GTX1080Ti
    The democrats did not do that, and your post is full of lies. Wow...you almost seemed like a normal person...but wow.
    The SIMPLE fact you're unaware of the SIMPLE FACT the virus DOES INFECT populations DIFFERENTLY by ethnicity, proves beyond any doubt you're just a blowhard poseur who has no idea of the science. If you'd like, I can go factually point by point and prove how inaccurate and ignorant your post is. It's odd that you wail so much about politics but spew out your own bizarre musing and conspiracies.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
    Reardan likes this.

  11. kanej2007

    kanej2007 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,394
    Likes Received:
    57
    GPU:
    MSI GTX 1080 TI 11GB
    Covid = Certificate Of Vaccination Identification
     
    jbscotchman likes this.
  12. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    7,124
    Likes Received:
    771
    GPU:
    2070 Super
    Yes. It's infuriating. Nothing says export of US cultural wars more than a guy in Estonia fighting for his "right to bear arms".
    That's why you don't jump right into middle of their inter-politics discussion.
     
  13. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    567
    GPU:
    RTX 2080 Ti FE
  14. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    567
    GPU:
    RTX 2080 Ti FE
    You love to leave out facts like Trump did a travel ban on China and the democrats and even some republicans called him racist and said there was no reason to do a travel ban on China during the outbreak. They were too busy trying to impeach him.




    How the hell you gonna blame one guy for the problem that's plaguing the entire world? You wanna blame me for the 2nd shutdown in California too?

    But hey...I don't let petty politics divide people. I still wanna be friends.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2020
    jbscotchman likes this.
  15. rm082e

    rm082e Master Guru

    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    211
    GPU:
    2070 Super
    By the end of the summer, we could be measuring the number of daily deaths in the U.S. in terms of "nine elevens"...
     

  16. toyo

    toyo Master Guru

    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    164
    GPU:
    Gigabyte 1070Ti 8G
    Go point by point then. I'm all years, gonna have a random TDS dude on the web explain to me, a radiologist in a COVID hospital, what COVID is like. Gonna be exciting.
    Imagine we would actually have proper moderation as per the rules, i.e. no politics. No moaning about blumpf. No moaning about Honk Kong. No conspiratards reeeing about muh freedom and liberty for a damn mask. No racialist essentialists pushing their race baiting crap.
    Imagine being so dedicated to a political party that you do their bidding for FREE, unpaid, online, and desperately whitewash their failures while throwing mud on your opponents.

    But more importantly, why do you think we should care about the US? It's not special. We don't get Chinese politics, and it's the emergent empire that'll likely overthrow yours in our lifetime. We don't get any country politics whatsoever, just endless American crap.

    Why? It's an international forum. Hilbert is a European, if I remember correctly. Why should we be having all this US stuff? Maybe it's time to get rid of the politics, for real this time. This sounds great to me:
    Political, War, oil, Erotic threads will be closed on sight
    Maybe the rules should apply.
     
    Alessio1989 and angelgraves13 like this.
  17. jbscotchman

    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    3,394
    GPU:
    MSI 1660 Ti Ventus
    My man, don't think that way.
     
  18. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    567
    GPU:
    RTX 2080 Ti FE
    I have no clue what you mean by saying "nine elevens"
     
  19. The Laughing Ma

    The Laughing Ma Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    4,288
    Likes Received:
    727
    GPU:
    Gigabyte 2070 Super
    Death toll per day from Covid 19 measured in how many people died the day the world trade centre was destroyed.

    Before you ask it was 2600.
     
    angelgraves13 likes this.
  20. angelgraves13

    angelgraves13 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,073
    Likes Received:
    567
    GPU:
    RTX 2080 Ti FE
    jbscotchman likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page