Italy lockdown ...how bad is the Coronavirus?

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  1. scatman839

    scatman839 Ancient Guru

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    its a spambot account, see their other post, trying to link crap, just report them

    actually nevermind that, it's a god damn virus account, trying to get people to get something onto their phones masquerading as gta5 on mobile.
     
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    In Italy the opening of the borders between different regions for non essential travels will probably postponed to 8 June or even 14 June.
     
  4. Mufflore

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ildrens-disease-recovered-sooner-placebo.html
     

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    Inflammation is the major issue with virus's that bury into the cells and tissue.
     
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    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    Well at this point in time after absorbing/researching/analyzing all the news/facts from every corner of the world for the last 6 months, I'm convinced this was a biological attack from China against America in an economic war that spilled over into the rest of the world. Go ahead an call me a conspiracy theorist I don't give a rat's ass.

    I'll repost this from earlier in the thread. This should answer a lot of @Amaze questions.


     
  7. Redemption80

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    Not everything in the world resolves around the USA.

    You also give China far too much credit, and does this mean China won?
     
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    Its a new era of war ladies and gentlemen. Something we've never seen before. Something we never expected to see in our lifetimes, but it is happening.
     
  9. Redemption80

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    It probably isn't though, that's just a more exciting prospect than a boring disease.

    If/When the US does nothing to retaliate, does that mean you were wrong or that the US government was also working with China?
     
  10. jbscotchman

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    We'll see..
     

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    Didn't someone post a video that pretty much and legit debunked everything that was mentioned in this video and just to add a bit of weight it wasn't being VO'd by a talking cat?

    I do find it annoying that China is now talking about being 99% sure that the phase 2 / 3 vaccine they are working on is going to work and that they are in discussions to trial the vaccine in Europe because the number of cases in China has dropped to the point that they may not be able to effectively conduct and monitor the trials there.
     
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    Not sure. Who can debunk it and who is to say they are right?
     
  13. Amaze

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    Don't @ me with this speculative nonsense. I'm done repeating crap already said weeks ago.
     
  14. toyo

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    Viruses are the dumbest vector for biological attacks.

    Make up your mind already. Is it a nothingburger emptybun plandemic to control populations?
    Is it a bio attack from muh evil China?
    Is it a serious disease? Or is it a 0.00000003% death rate lightwieght flu that only rarely kills the elderly.
    Are the deaths inflated? Or not?
    If the death rate is small, does it mean that China's attack failed and is irrelevant?

    Imagine being so narcissistic to think your country is so important that China went and put under lockdown approx. 80M people in Hubei just so they can give the US a bit of an emptybun flu.

    Yeah, it's called the low IQ pandemic era.
     
  15. jbscotchman

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    Blatantly shutting down anyone that raises questions that mainstream media doesn't talk about is in itself low IQ.
     
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    OK, Italy is ruled by a 100% autistic and retarded political class, it will be 3 June. They all (all parties) deny the fact in the last week the new case graph has ben a flat line between at 500-550 new case per day while before there was a constant and continuos decrement of new cases..
     
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    What do you mean?
    If we learned anything so far, it's: lockdown hard, lockdown fast and test test test. Saves lives and jobs; just look at Asia. But somehow we needed hundreds of thau deaths and countless studies to come to conclusion that should have been intuitively clear to every sane individual.

    OTOH it's not all that obvious how or when the country should proceed with lifting the lockdown.
     
  18. Redemption80

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    What we will see is a lot of threats, then things will go quiet for a bit and a new deal between the US and China will be announced with big promises from both countries about how this will benefit everyone.

    It's just so predictable.
     
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    You can already travel between regions for work. It's obvious that if you do not want different opening rules for different regions then the infection must be under control in the entire country. While in some part of the country the situation is totally under control and mostly disappeared, that's not true for other regions. In the last two weeks we saw first a slowing down of the decrement of the new cases and now is almost constant. Politicians (all) say that they are increasing the number of swabs and the infection is retiring faster, but the official data say exactly the opposite: the infection rate is converging to a ~550 new case per day and the number of swabs is decreasing.
    Some idiots here are whining for the decision of Greece to not include Italy in the list for the allowed country for incoming tourism (like France, UK, Spain, Sweden, USA and many others), denying what's the current reality of Italy: we are all but a safe zone (like France, UK, Spain etc..).
     
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  20. The Laughing Ma

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    Odd, so if YOU post it it's FACTS if someone else posts countering it it is speculative and subject to being proven?

    Yup South Korea has just re entered a partial lock down due to 79 confirmed new cases. So this country got on top of it from the word go has one of the best testing, tracking and tracing set ups in place in the world and has decided that a partial lock down is now needed for 79 new cases. Mean while here in the UK we are getting more than 79 people a day dying still due to the virus, and our testing, tracking and tracing is nothing short of a shambolic mess but we have had lock down restrictions eased for over a week now and are now looking to ease them further.

    I am not sure exactly what the goal of our government was, if their even was a goal but if any country wants to see and example of how NOT to do things our government would be a great example. They have chosen to do the wrong thing at almost every step. When they have decided to do the right thing they have decided to do it at the wrong time, either way to late or way too early.

    The conclusion I can draw is that countries that went at this hard and fast did so with the intention of wiping this out, their objective was to at some point have zero cases and sustain that as a reality that would need to be managed in the long term. Other countries such as the UK have decided that they will just opt to manage the numbers, as long as the R value is below 1 and the hospital services are not over whelmed then it's fine to just have the virus as a part of daily life. We'll just accept the death toll and the sickness and the risk that it brings and just expect our people to accept the inconvenience of managing it in their daily lives and to honest that is an utterly disgusting policy for ANY government to even think is acceptable.
     
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