It is official AMD skips 20nm and jumps to 14nm

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  1. icedman

    icedman Maha Guru

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    The only reason apu's fail in laptops is because no one gives them a chance. I would take a cheaper a10 with dual graphics over an i7 based laptop. I7 will win in cpu but no way in hell will it keep up graphicaly which i find most laptops lacking.
     
  2. Stormyandcold

    Stormyandcold Ancient Guru

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    Totally agree. I don't know anyone who's bought a desktop for many years (more than 5yrs). For me, laptops and tablets are the way forward.

    2yrs ago with the release of GTX680m 4GB (which is in my current system) the performance had climbed enough (gfx-wise) to make laptops a viable desktop replacement.

    I paid £1300 for my laptop 2nd hand (was only 4months old), never looked back tbh. What's more, in regards to upgradability my laptop has mxm3.0B so I can upgrade to GTX980m 8GB for £600 from eurocom.

    It's about 30% more money for 20% less performance than desktop 4GB card...Nvidia have already said that the performance gap between desktop and laptops drops with each generation.

    Within 2yrs I think laptop gpu will be very compelling for even more people.
     
  3. xIcarus

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    That's because you require graphics performance. I, for example, require processing power and good SSD performance.

    And besides, there are always dedicated graphics.
    What kills me nowadays is that we barely have awesome CPUs and build quality laptops with integrated graphics. I had to buy a laptop with a 860M while pursuing build quality and a fast CPU. It's a bit sad really that we still cannot make our own laptops. I'm not saying the 860M is useless hell no, it's actually quite good. But why not give us the choice?

    But back to your point, APUs generally have quite weak CPUs and high power consumption relative to their Intel counterparts. And if you're buying integrated graphics, you're not a heavy gamer. I, as a gamer and programmer that also hobbies in 3D rendering, cannot imagine ever buying an APU.
    I suspect that a faster CPU feeds an SSD better as well especially if you're a heavy multitasker.
     
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    Percentages, they tell noting, it does not tell if desktop is actually shrinking or other areas are growing.

    Total Numbers are what matter. But it is very probable that desktops sales are down due to no real evolution outside GPUs in last 4 years.
    And this is likely statistics counting only All-In-One systems. if they count number of sold CPUs + MBs then they could get different result.

    This can as well mean that OEM desktop PCs are in decline because more people build customs.
     

  5. vbetts

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    Generally APU performance even in the A10 range are not all that great in mobile variants. Still better than Intel's offerings except for Iris Pro and some of the 6 series.
     
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    elkosith Maha Guru

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    I remember when I bought the Radeon 9550. It was built using the 13 micrometer node, and it was a feature!
     
  7. xIcarus

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    No, it was built using the 130nm node. 13um = 13000 nm.
    I believe you meant 0.13um node.
     
  8. Ryu5uzaku

    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    10 micrometer node was in the 1971. 130nm is quite a bit smaller.
     

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