Is it true a soundcard on a motherbaord can increase FPS in games???

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  1. Drunkenmasta

    Drunkenmasta Ancient Guru

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    Hi,

    I was touching up on the Audigy4 preview and I noticed Hilbert mentioning having a soundcard and as opposed to on-board it increases FPS in games!!!

    If so, does anyone know by how much or the % increase??

    Thanks

    pz
     
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    It can. Onboard audio uses the CPU to do whatever, compared to an addon card that has its own processor... Perhaps somebody else can explain more.
     
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    yeah perhaps.....:(
     
  4. Firefox_1

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    Yes, onboard sound uses up valuable CPU cycles, so of course a card which processes the sound itself will save CPU power, therefore giving more performance. There is no exact % increase/decrease, I'd assume it is different for all types of CPUs and different types of onboard sound solutions.
     

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    Most onboard sounds are just enough to output the sounds, but the sound mixing itself is done by the processor and utilizes quite a bit of cpu depending on what you're doing, probably only 1-5% listening to music or general windows use, but can be 5-15% playing games or even 15-25% playing with 3d effects in games. Getting a sound card with it's own sound processor (sblive and up for creative cards have their own DSPs) can lower this usage dramatically.. listening to music down to 1% or less and games 4-8% / 8-15% or so with 3d effects.

    It's not a HUGE difference, but it can be 5-15fps in some games, especially if you love cranking up the sound quality and 3d effects.

    These are just estimated usages, it totally depends on your onboard sound and the games you're playing, and ofcourse your processor.. try benchmarking games with sound on and sound off, and look at the fps difference.. then cut that loss down to 2/3 and that's roughly what you would have with a good soundcard.
     
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    of course it's true. it saves your CPU from some nasty processes when 3D sound and hi-quality sound is used in games. some people have reported gains of up to 20fps in games. I don't know the difference because I haven't used onboard sound for more than 4 years.
     
  7. Dr. Vodka

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    then the audigy 2/4 can be called an "APU", Audio Processing Unit.
     
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    LoL, I guess so.
     
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    Ok, then I have a question for your peeps.......If i put my Sblaster live value in on my DFI Lanparty UT 250Gb would I see a diff or will it be negligable at this point??
     
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    You can test around about how much FPS you will gain by going into the bios and disabling the onboard audio controller and doing some benchmarking.
     

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    Meh, not a bad idea....I think I will try that tonight when I get the bastard back up and running.....:rolleyes: this rig is fighting with me on the settings so I gotta mess with it some more......I hate having to reset the bios, there has to be an easier way!!!:mad:
     
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    Chances are the sb live will utilize less cpu.. but them again if you just have a plain sb live it won't have 7.1, nevermind 5.1 even. It'd be limited to a 4.1 setup.
     
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    yes having a soundcard on your pc give u increase, in splinter cell i get 18 fps more and other games as well but only if the game use EAX HD only.
     
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    Well, it seems the sound card from SB Live! and up would be much better and use less CPU than having onboard, so ya.
     
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    Right thanks guyz, I'll check it out :D I am thinking of getting a SB Live! 5.1 90 dB. ;)

    pz
     

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    audigy 2 only give u eax 4 or 3 effects , 7.1 chaanel, i get more good fps with onboard sound rater than audigh 2 zs.
     
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    yes there is hardly any difference except for 1-3 fps
     
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    I'll disable the audio and see what diff there is and post my results through FRAPS. Thanks

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    your not gonna get a major increase anyway, when you use EAX you have to expect a drop in framerate womewhat as it's alot of processing. The Game is accessing the API and dynamically changing reverb/delay settings..especially in EAX4 with the multi audio environment rendering would be pretty taxing....
     
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    Yeah, well I'm still guessing with an APU it must help the CPU, just like how a graphic card is a opposed to on-board, but in this case it's audio.

    btw, I didn't manage to disable sound in my BIOS, I couldn't find it :( Anyone know what it would be titled as?

    Thanks

    pz
     

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