Is a technological singularity ever going to happen?

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  1. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    I know. Yet, it also mentions:
     
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    bokah Ancient Guru

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    very exited about quantum computing ;)

     
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  3. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Nice video of a software (currently still in beta) showcasing Vitamin D's - object and person recognition scanning algorithm (using a Hierarchical Temporal Memory architecture, developed first by Numenta): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G30FHqSKZOg

    The software works with any webcam and the pattern recognition is sophisticated enough to discover people moving through trees, partially covered by other objects, and facing in any direction.

    Btw, you can sign up to get the free beta version here: http://vitamindinc.com/
     
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    JohnMaclane Ancient Guru

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    a bit is defined at 0,1, quantum bits are called 1qbits and the bits you are talking about dont even exist.

    Also the base argument doesnt make sense I dont think you have the right idea of computer logic. A transistor for example has a gazillion states just for digital systems we just use part of it.
     

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    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Since the above software is based on Hierarchical Temporal Memory (HTM) architecture (which is freely available to anyone interested in a nice software package, btw: http://numenta.com/for-developers/software.php), I thought I should maybe share a short presentation given by the guy behind this progress in pattern recognition capability, Jeff Hawkins:


    Imo, it's just amazing to see how many different theories are out there and how much progress is currently being made.
    source: http://singularityhub.com/2009/01/16/jeff-hawkins-understanding-and-recreating-human-intelligence/
     
  6. Duke Nil

    Duke Nil Maha Guru

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    Well it's an interesting argument, it essentially comes down to whether or not you believe consciousness or sentience can be synthesized, as in whether we have some mystical nature that makes us special (a soul, spirit, qi, whatever you want to call it) that cannot be reproduced no matter how advanced the technology gets.

    I did like the AI concept in ghost in the shell where eventually the internet got so complex and there was just so much digital information constantly flowing that a sort of natural selection process and therefore evolution came about, resulting in an entity that could be said to be conscious and could do things of its own accord, I guess pretty much exactly what is meant by a singularity.
     
  7. Cybermancer

    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    This is indeed a quite controversial and manifold topic - to say the least.
    Here's a definition of it by the SIAI (Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence): http://singinst.org/overview/whatisthesingularity
     
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    nexu Maha Guru

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    With that said, the Tachikoma were cute! Yes, this message is totally off-topic :D
     
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    Makalu Ancient Guru

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    well expert systems are alive and well doing the things that they can do...the basic design is a knowledge base or a rule base and an inference engine. The limits were hit ~1987 according to the history of AI here:

    http://www.stottlerhenke.com/ai_general/history.htm

     
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    bits in binary (base-2)system are defined as 0,1
    bits in base-3 would be 0,1,2
    no idea how Qbit goes
    and no, base-∞ does not exists, never said so, even tho i wish it did
     

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    JohnMaclane Ancient Guru

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    what base is hex machine code?
     
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    bokah Ancient Guru

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    ur next guestion would be "what base is ascii code" right?
     
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    No because ascii isnt a base but arbitrary codes which for decimal are from 0-255 and for hex if I remember correctly 0-FF.

    even a bit is arbitrary since generally it takes more then 1,0, there is Z and the IEEE library specifies much more, point being the base argument doesnt make sense.
     
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    bokah Ancient Guru

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    right, it does not make sense as u cant program with it, u need to teach it
     
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    Maybe I'm missing the point are you talking about a non digital form of computing? Because for that you can let your imagination run wild.

    In digital systems we invent higher bases (ex hex) for easier representation and programming, Hex for example makes programming BCD displays easier, DEC is just easier when testing hardware and bit programming is just a pain in the ass, I know because I have experienced the magical world of the 8051 microcontroller.
     

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    on my 1st day job they had owen to burn roms, if thats what u mean
     
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    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    Could we please get back on topic now after this nice excursion of what is and why are computers binary?

    As you might have heard already, the Singularity University (http://singularityu.org/) opened it's doors last week at the NASA Ames campus (Silicon Valley) for the inaugural executive program.

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    The nice thing about it: instead of spending $15,000 USD on its nine day executive program or $25,000 USD on its nine week GSP, you can follow most of what happens for free through Singularity University’s twitter feed (http://twitter.com/singularityu) or the YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/singularityu) which contains a nice collection of free lectures. Some photos can be found in the openly accesible Picasa album (http://picasaweb.google.com/s2049u).
     
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    Cybermancer Don Quixote

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    "The Second Conference on Artificial General Intelligence" (http://agi-conf.org/2009/) which took place in Arlington, Virginia - March 6-9 (Fri-Mon) 2009, in cooperation with AAAI (Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence - http://www.aaai.org/home.html) finally released the videos of the meeting on Vimeo.

    You can check out the schedule here (http://agi-conf.org/2009/schedule.php) to easily find the videos and almost all slides.

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    Some additional information about AGI in general can be found at the Wiki of the Artificial General Intelligence Research Institute: http://www.agiri.org/wiki/Artificial_General_Intelligence_Research_Institute
     

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