Is a Digital Connection (HDMI or S/Pdif) the best way to go?

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by ROBSCIX, May 7, 2012.

  1. ESlik

    ESlik Ancient Guru

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    If analog is the only "true" surround,why would anyone want Digital. I for one,prefer analog. Digital or emulated surround doesn't cut it for me. I figure it's better to buy a high end sound card and go from there.
     
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    Becomes some people want the ease of using one cable to connect there audio to their system. Then some people uses Digital with their External Dac Amp's.
     
  3. ROBSCIX

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    Who said analog is the only true surround? You can get surround sound with either connection method.
     
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    Everything I've read about 5.1 surround sound suggest 5.1 analog to be a "true surround", If I remember correctly,you even said it, or at least you agreed with that description. I believe it to be a true surround. If in fact I'm wrong,what IS a "true surround"? Thanks ROB.
     
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    Whether you go digital from your source to a receiver, and then out to your speakers, or you go analogue from a sound card to an amp/receiver, it ends up being analogue out to the speakers anyway.

    Spdif can support up to 6 channels (5.1 surround sound), if I know what I'm talking about.
     
  6. ESlik

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    I checked the Razer Tiamat FAQ,and they refer to the Tiamat headphones as being a "true" analog surround. Many forums etc. refer to 5.1 or 7.1 analog as "true". I don't know,I'm just saying what everyone else is saying. I know one thing for sure,there is a difference in gaming with analog as opposed to digital,and analog is way better. I've had quite a few headphones,both 5.1 and stereo with a digital surround source,and there's no comparison. In my opinion. And as most of you know,I'm NEVER really happy. That's why you'll see me buying so many sound cards and headphones. I must say this though,I'm about as happy with what I'm using right now as I've ever been. Analog all the way.
     
  7. ROBSCIX

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    No, I would have never said something like that and if you got that from a posting of mine you misunderstood it.

    Analog connection to a receiver to surround.
    Equals
    Digital connection to a receiver to surround.

    Both are the same, just the conversion takes place in a different location.

    Not sure, what you mean about true surround.
    True surround would be 6 channel or more but offering discrete channels.
    Older systems such as early prologic, used a surround channel, both rear channels operating on one channel more or less. Systems then advanced to Dolby Digital 5.1 which has left rear and right rear which is a big advancement. What comes after is all built off that tech.

    You can have this surround using analog or digital one is not always superior to the other.

    Not sure if that is what you are asking or not. If I am still misunderstanding your question or suggestion..let me know and I will try and clarify the information.
     
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    They're just referring to having multiple drivers in the earcups as opposed to simulating the surround sound effect. This has nothing to do with analogue vs digital in the scope of this thread, but definitely opens up another huge can of worms (you're referring to true speakers vs DSP - this thread is referring to analogue vs digital connections between devices, such as a sound card to a receiver).

    Analogue from a sound card to a receiver could very well sound better than digital to the receiver, if the sound card has a superior DAC/output stage/etc.
     
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  9. ROBSCIX

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    If you are running a high end soundcard, chances are analog connection will trump a digital connection unless, you are running a very high end receiver...and I mean very high end...few thousand.
     
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    How much its cost I only now bought yamaha rx-359
    I use spdif because on analog/ multy Chanel there no bass
    I waste 2 days to turn on the ddl with my recon3d

    Does my reciver OK what company DAC this reciver have?
     
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    This is your Yamaha Receiver :) http://www.world-import.com/Yamaha-RX-V359.htm

    It's decent and has most things you need...

    regards,
    RagDoll.
     
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    With the Xonar D1 I had, the sound quality using optical to my receiver was far better than analog. The DACs and opamps in my harman kardon receiver are definitely superior to those on the D1. With the HT OMEGA Claro Plus I upgraded to about a week and a half ago, the sound quality using analog is superior to optical. The Claro Plus is giving me the best audio experience I have found using analog on a sound card to date. I am really impressed with her thus far.
     
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    Which receiver do you have? Have the PCIx1 version of the D1 and have it connected with Swans M50w. As per your post Claro Plus sounds like way better card than DX/D1. This interests me :nerd::3eyes:
     
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    Hey Killswitch, my receiver is a Harman Kardon AVR 3600. Yes, the Claro Plus sounds far superior to the DX/D1. There is honestly no comparison.
     
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    And I do agree with you (your post in a different thread) about DX/D1 having a hollow type of sound despite sounding way better than onboard audio. It sounds like it can be improved.

    It is this one right:

    http://www.htomega.com/claroplus.html

    EDIT: Hmm.. Claro Plus is a $180 card vs the $100 D1/DX so the comparison in terms of price is not justified. For that price Claro Plus is comparable to Xonar ST/STX etc.


     
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  16. DW75

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    Yes, that is the card.
     

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