Intel Xeon W-3175X 28-core Processor Released at $2,999

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  1. Fox2232

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    When I was checking benchmarks to see actual difference, I found little something. 2990wx adheres to 250W limit. Unfortunately W-3175X does not and eats 320W out of the box.
    That means it may be stronger in default situation, but it comes at 28% higher power consumption. In other words, if both are limited to their 250 and 255W limits, that W-3175X is unlikely to be winning.
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-xeon-w-3175x-cpu,5976-3.html
     
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    Many people here and on the internet said 5960x @ 1000$ was a stupid buy @ release. Many years later, it appear to be the best cpu buy :D It still going strong!
     
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    @nizzen I agree. It was still a beast until ryzen 1800x / i7 7700k (both came out in 2017). 3 years to get old. And in most benchmarks it matches them. So, it needed 2018 cpus 2700x ryzen and 8700k to totally annihilate it.

    In less words, 4 years needed (2014-2018) for 5960x to become a cpu for upgrade and start bottlenecking. I am sure anyone paid for it, this cpu deserved its money. 4 years and it still is going strong regardless being slow.
     
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    $1000 for an 8 core 5 years ago wasn't that horrible of a buy, i will say though at the time, it wasn't a great buy, due to the fact intels own 6 core/12 thread processor was $583 and $389, and had higher frequencies. Both of those 6 core processors would be doing just fine today as well and you could have spent half the price if not more.

    But point most people are making in terms of pricing now, is that:

    6-core/12 thread procssors

    In 2011, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $583 (in fact there were 2 in 2011 that you could get for that price, the older generation Core i7-980 or newer generation Core i7-3930K)
    In 2013, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $555
    In 2014, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $389
    In 2016, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $434
    In 2017, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $389
    Later in 2017, you could get a 6-core, 12 thread processor for $359
    Only processor that was 6-core, 12 thread in 2018 was $425 and a low-power version for $303

    8-core/16 thread processors

    In 2014, you could get an 8-core/16 thread processor for $999
    In 2017, you could get an 8-core/16 thread processor for $1089 (and remember an extra 2-cores on that one for 10 cores was $1723)
    Later in 2017, you could get an 8-core/16 thread processor $599
    In 2018, you could get an 8-core/16 thread processor for $499(488?)

    So even though the years have gone by, the prices really haven't. We've been stuck with high prices of them being considered a "premium" up until late for the 8-core/16-thread and quite frankly, still high prices for the 6-core/12 thread processors. Also note that for both the 6 core 12 thread and 8 core 16 thread processors, 2017 saw a reduction in price with a quickly hastened and cheaper release....but it was much, much more drastic on the 8-core, since they were very directly price gauging the 8 cores, still are, and to a lesser extent price gauging the 6 core 12 threaded processors.

    So when people talk about pricing, currently, being high, its because people remember the fact that they have had 6 core, 12 thread processors, in the $370 range, for 5 years now from intel. It wasn't terribly overly expensive, 5 years ago, it's expensive now. And they remember that for almost 4 years, 8 cores were $1000, and drastically dropped, not nearly far enough though, only within the last 1.2ish years.

    Again, your 5960x, 5 years ago, for $1000, wasn't an amazing buy given intels own 6 core pricing at the time, but it was the latest and greatest and most cores on a CPU to date from intel, i don't blame them for that. I do blame them for everything since then.

    Same goes for threadripper 32-cores currently, it's not an "amazing" buy (it is relative to the competition), but someone buying that is buying the latest and greatest currently available, and should keep them from needing to upgraded for a long time, just like your 5960x has. But like with the 5960x, i feel the 24-core threadripper is the better buy, it's cheaper, and will likely last just as long as a 32-core processor (unless you have specific important programs now, or soon, that'll utilize the 32-cores).

    Now, if AMD in 4 years still has a 32 core processor for $1500 and above, i'll say the same thing to them: Knock it off.

    In regards to the 7700k, i don't believe that overthrew the 5960x, not in total performance anyways. 5960x was a pretty low frequency 8-core processor at 3.0Ghz, and was beaten in single-threaded programs (the same thing the 7700k will beat the 5960x) by its own, cheaper, same generation 6-core processors. I'd say the 5960x was a beast(for multi-threaded applications) until the 1800x / Core i7-7820X was released. I would say the 6900k did...but that was a stupidly expensive processor.

    But that's just my opinion.
     
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  5. D3M1G0D

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    Tell that to my Threadripper, ha ha :p
     
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    I'd like to see a benchmark on what you're talking about, but i doubt anyone will do it.

    Also, sheesh, 676 watts overclocked to 4.6Ghz
     
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    Maybe someone has account there and can ask. But till I actually see fair performance/watt benchmarks, I'll consider this $3000 chip as worse in that department than AMD's 2990wx.
     
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    RAM speed or XMP shouldn't matter on the CPU OC, have as well 5960x and I'm running 4.6Ghz OC on my with Corsair LPX 2133MHz 96GB of RAM,I'm limited by cache OC but that's down to my motherboard which is ASRock X99 WS

    If its still under warranty, check over on Intel website then I would suggest RMA 5960x, done that as on my first 5960x I lost IMC

    But agree about the ThreadRipper or Ryzen 3xxx series

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
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    Maybe when you bought it cpu already had degraded imc. Nevertheless, 5960x is still a beast.
     
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