The 8 core that I referenced is only $600 - I don't personally have the need for more than 8 cores and remember the initial argument is "just get x399" Also I don't really consider the non-use of solder "lack of quality". For starters the TIM that everyone talks about being the issue was proven not to be an issue. The issue was the gap between the IHS and the die - delidding the CPU and removing the glue then using the same TIM dropped the temperatures to like 90% of what replacing the TIM itself did. Also Intel swapped the TIM out in the first place due to the solder causing defects on the chip. http://overclocking.guide/the-truth-about-cpu-soldering/ Either way you can't get the 1800x or any Ryzen chip that we know of past 4.0 and Intel's out of the box is above that. As long as the chip has a lifespan of 6+ years delidded or not, the IHS being glued on doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others.