Intel X-series processors Specs leaked incl Core i9 7980 XE

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Number of threads of TRs seem to be switched.
     
  3. RavenMaster

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    Clock speeds are too low for me. I won't be buying any of the i9's. Hopefully the Coffee Lake CPU's won't be as disappointing.
     
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    guess they intel still thinks they can sell those ridiculously expensive cpu
     

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    They are indeed. I'm sure HH will see it and fix it.
     
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    mmm, you have 18c/36t at the same price point that 10c/20t were not that long ago in the Intel line-up, so logic says yes, as there are still many people who wouldn't touch AMD with a barge-pole.
     
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    People will buy them.

    They are already sold before they hit the market.

    Not saying this from a fanboy point of view.

    You and I won't want em. I def agree with you, I'll never spend that amount of money on a single CPU.

    These "mega" cpu's that come out year to year...I just don't see the value. But people upgrade to them year to year anyway. To each their own.
     
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    I can't help but feel that Intel is being rather hasty since AMD launched their new chips.
     
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    @RavenMaster
    even before we knew exact clock speeds, why would "you" be interested in any type of intel at all ? (maybe the i9-7980, as amd only offers 16C for consumers).
    But even then, i can get two 1920X rigs for the price of one 18C intel.

    Besides the board related "trouble" (vrms), you get less lanes, higher power consumption and producing more heat, all while costing more than the amds.

    Just curious...
     
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    i will not be supporting intel for a very long time now. Sold all my intel stuff and got 1500k for it on ebay.

    so that paid for my ryzen stuff. threadripper is next.

    my money goes to the company that deserves it.
     

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    People are going to praise Intel for releasing an 18 core CPU for the masses when they should really be thanking AMD. If AMD didn't announce Threadripper, Intel would only release 12 cores and milk it for another decade.

    Intel is anti-technology because they don't have any new technology left. They're just giving us a little bit at a time of what they do have, because the train they've been riding is running out of tracks and sooner or later they'll be completely irrelevant.
     
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  13. Silva

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    Although I'm not that extreme, I agree with you.
    As consumers, we should look for the best price/performance and not be blinded by marketing and performance kings. Sure if you just want a gaming machine you'll be temped by going i7 7700k, but a R7 1700 is so much better value imo.

    10, Intel would only release 10 cores. Because Ryzen is 8.
    It's that game: "but look, we have more cores!" And people will fall for it.
    They have been making other technologies, some successful others not. Thunderbolt and Optane are two that pop up now.
    But in the end, they let the CPU market stagnate because of lack of competition. That's the only thing I still respect on Nvidia: they're ****ing expensive, but never stopped to try and push forward.
     
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    Well said Silva (and a few others). Even the most ardent Intel fan boy surely has to admit that Intel have milked it for a few years now and oh my hasn't it been both obvious and boring.
     
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    Look, all bad things aside. On the Intel 18c CPU I'm sure no one thought it will have boost clocks that high. I wonder what the reason will be then for their low base clocks? Can it be that the CPU's actually have a heat issue and that is why the base clocks is that low and the CPU can only boost at high clocks for a few seconds until it has to down clock? Then again on the AMD side you get the 16c that will boost to 4.0Ghz with no heat issues and it cost half the price of the Intel 18c. I can't see the reasoning for going the Intel route. Even if money was no object, just the mere fact that you are getting screwed over so badly it's not even funny is enough not to go the Intel route.
     

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    ^ Exactly, they must have a heat issue.
     
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    I’m sure they’ll be great CPUs if you don’t overclock them. Maybe just Sync All Cores.

    However, putting more money in Intel’s pocket rather than AMD’s is the reason the CPU market has stagnated for years. Will this be faster than Threadripper? Yes. Should you buy it? Probably not. Threadripper will offer 90% of the performance with 20 more PCI-Express lanes and $800 lower price, which you can use to get something like a 1080 Ti. The base clocks on the 1950X are much nicer than these anyway.
     
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    Is there even a point in releasing these CPUs? With the heat problems Intel has deliberately produced these things have to be clocked low to avoid burning up. Will 18 cores clocked lower use significantly less power than a higher clocked 10 core if you're trying to reach the exact same multi threaded performance? That's the only way these would make any sense to me, considering that the 10 core is so hard to keep cool enough if you overclock it. Seems like a bad deal anyway, given the price difference.
     
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    I9s are simpl a failure , a very immature release , remind of Pentium D .. ovens
     
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    All that goodness AMD could have bring to us if properly funded. I mainly like their approach to open technology and development tools. They are like that since forever.
    Competition is slowly adopting this mindset important for future of technological advancement.
    And I am happy that this time around AMD managed to get out of door products which deliver great consumer value for price.

    As for those intel's products here. I am not disappointed since I already reduced my expectations twice drastically. So, this is what I expected.
    Now I am interested in seeing benchmarks for all those CPUs done by one person under same conditions.
     

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