Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jul 16, 2020.
Something big... Sounds like chiller will be included with new CPUs!
Fits the motive.
I'll go with PCI-E 4.0 nvme being the something big.
Big + Intel.... super monolithic die? Break the trend, no MCM, gonna go supersize silicon!!
I wonder how big of an announcement for world would be if intel announced high resolution depth camera that enabled DARPA to have its own T-800.
Before everyone get's excited.
They're going back to 22 nm
Edit: Damn, you did the joke before me
AMD is no where close to dominating and Intel is far from being uncompetitive. Not sure where you get this idea that there's no competition from..... Seems you'd prefer to see Intel continue to dominate the market, as opposed to AMD catching them.
Wow, I didn't know about the memory thing...
That's a new low, really. Literally, a new LOW SPEED for memory.
Why does anyone still buy products from these a$$holes?
The average consumer will never notice.... Businesses don't care.... It's really only the enthusiast crowd that will see an issue. Besides, enabling XMP voids warranty anyway.....at least on Intel CPU.....lol
*Press button to void Warranty*
Sadly, it is called intel XMP. Values that are used are written by memory manufacturer. And option is enabled through intel's BIOS.
Yet one more reason to call them a$$holes.
Why is the option there if they forbid using it ?
That's the perfect example of them shooting themselves in the foot and losing any good will left, for what? The pennies they will save but all those burnt-out CPUs that enabled XMP and caught fire?
Linus makes a good point that memory OC is the next step for Intel, and they most likely want to segregate it artificially (again).
While it's hard not to agree with Linus, had Intel's 10nm not been MIA, none of his complaints would matter.
They have 10nm. No matter how you look at it. Other foundries can't do 5GHz CPUs on 14/10/7/... nm. Intel had very good 14nm, their 10nm is on par with others.
And because intel kept squeezing maximum out of 14nm instead of working on IPC improvements they now need those 100 MHz steps to deliver "better" products than before.
For low power mobile.
But not for mainstream notebooks, not for high performance laptops, not for desktops, not for servers and not for HPC.
It really makes no sense to me. Why advertise compatibility with higher memory clocks if using those memory clocks voids the warranty? I've never seen a processor damaged by enabled XMP and I'd be surprised if it's ever happened.
Personally, I'm perfectly happy with what AMD is offering and will probably stick with them so long as they can stay on track. I like being able to use advertised features without voiding a warranty.
Because older tech is doing better there. It is not like they could not release those on 10nm. It is that they would not be competitive against existing products.
"older tech doing better"
"10nm not competitive so lets use 14nm"
That makes like no sense at all