Zen 2 8 core is one die + I/O die IIRC supports 4Ghz DDR4+ which gains remain to be seen Your 12 core argument means nothing because they can be overclocked. Yields will increase and so will top end clocks. Where Intel wins is the mobile arena. The 9980HK is the most impressive CPU because it has potential for 5GHz yet at lower wattage than 9900K. And besides clocks and RAM speed only matter for 1920x1080, 4K can be any CPU and 2080 TI will be the bottleneck as well as the next big gpu.