Intel Takes back CPU market share at Steam

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  1. SamuelL421

    SamuelL421 Master Guru

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    Not too surprising - AMD has moved into the "premium" range and pulled everything in their product catalog up-market in terms of pricing (whether it is deserved from a performance standpoint or not...). Meanwhile Intel is capturing the entry market since it can reduce prices and still crank out a ton of chips from its own fabs where you've got few bottlenecks (stark contrast to TSMC).
     
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    Not that I take Steam surveys seriously but AMD clearly are on a smash and grab. The poor little fella who was the good guy is getting more and more expensive. Intel has some cracking gaming CPUs out there right now, well priced.
     
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    If this statistic is even anyway accurate I would say that Intel is cheaper and there is plenty of supply. I was lucky to even get Ryzen 5000 series at last December.
     
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    It was a rhetorical example, you take it mathematically just to defend yourself :D and if you continue to do so, makes it even more ridiculous.
     

  5. waltc3

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    First, it's Steam--not everyone who has a Steam account, you know, just those who opt-in to the survey. Second, Mercury does market share estimates. Third, and most telling, Intel hasn't made anything recently that I would want to buy. (So that's the "third strike," I think..;))
     
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    given that budget cpu offerings from amd are basically non-existent in my country i wouldn't be surprised if its a supply issue, for instance the 3300x has been out of stock for like 6 months, where as the 11th and 10th gen intel cpus in the same price range are instock most of the time.
     
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    The I5 11400f is a great gaming cpu that comes with a great cost per performance and AMD is lacking in that price tag department they really need 5600 non x.

    On the other side Ryzen 5000 availability is getting much better and i was able to spot 5600X little under the MSRP as well as 5900 and 5950X.
     
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    Math=logic. You're spending more time ridiculing than you are giving proper evidence or logic.
     
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    Maybe people finally found out 10th and 11th gen isn't as power hungry as every review states. And ofcourse Intel has superb pricing.

    My 11700 (non-K) uses 40-45 watts during gaming, while my old 4770K was always at 95 watts.
     
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    Are you sure those models are even being manufactured anymore? Maybe for OEM, but who knows about retail? AMD is being greatly tortured by supply issues, so they would be mad not to concentrate on the more expensive products with higher profit margins. Despite all the problems Intel has had going below 14nm, I bet they are still happy to have their own fabrication plants in the current situation.
     

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    Im sure they are producing some, its just not enough,when you dont live in a populous country like the united states, you also get decreased priority. amd wont stop making the current budget parts until they have something to replace them.
     
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    *clap* you got it chief!
     
  13. Erick

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    Soo.....my pc with the Intel hardware was scanned by Valve's hardware inventory. My AMD gaming rig was not. I don't believe the stats after seeing that.
     
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    Last i checked, neither company makes CPUs in the 4-5ghz base frequency range.

    The bulk of their sales are Ryzen 5000 cpus due to data provided by Sony's Q4 earnings reports. A total of 75% of all AMD CPU sold in Q4 of 2020 were Ryzen 5 or 7 cpus. The reaming 25% was Ryzen 9 and NAVI .

    How so? The performance charts i've seen show the prices very competitive for similarly priced chips. For example the 5800x ($379) vs i7 11700k ($349) for gaming performance both stock and overclocked, the Intel chip while cheaper still beats AMD in most games.

    People always then argue that Intel boards cost a lot more, but Looking at my local microcenter, the cheapest X570 boards are $179 and go as high as $599. Intel z590 boards start at $169 but can get as high as a mind numbing $899. Both the X570 and Z590 boards on the low end models are still nicely equipped and more than adequate for the average user.
     
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    Every month the sample size used by Steam Hardware Survey is about 30,000,000 systems. So i have far more confidence in this than articles quoting German retailers that primarily focus on selling only AMD hardware. To be fair, statistics are only as accurate as the person doing them is honest. A wise man once said:

     

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    That's a pretty bold claim. Do you shop in Germany often? The competition situation in Germany must be exceedingly lax if stores can specialise in such a way. My guess is that you are only confused. Of course stores would have grandly advertised Ryzens after the years of desolation dictated by Intel, and Intel's quite lackluster response to Ryzen. Everything new and shiny is easier to market than the same old stuff. If the new and shiny is also a game changer, all the more so. Stores simply need to make sales all the time to survive. Any competent store clerk would immediately tell you to buy a new Ryzen system to replace your old Intel one, even if you didn't actually need four more cores for anything you ever do with your PC.
     

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