Intel Shows Optane memory that fits in DDR4 DIMM slots

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. RealNC

    RealNC Ancient Guru

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    They're still trying to push this thing down people's throats?

    "This is Optane and you WILL like it."
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    If you don't need it, don't buy it :)

    I love my 900p 480GB ;)
     

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    This is the type of Optane that everyone wanted to start with. I think people underestimate what a game changer replacing your RAM with non-volatile memory could be.

    In the future, it could mean the end of ever seeing a loading screen again. Imagine wanting to run a game and bam, it's already in memory so no need to load it. Instantly responsive PCs.
     
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    I'd looked into their Optane 900p 480GB for my upgrade build I am putting together atm, totally not worth it to me, went with a 960 1TB EVO instead (paid £255 / $340 for an oem model)

    But saw a video bt Star Citixen's Devs where they had been using an SSD RAID 6 with 24 SSDs to complie their builds, swapping to a VROC RAID with 4x 900p reduced their build time in half! From 6hrs13mins to 3hrs30mins.

    In the right scenario's these drives have amazing performance which works out a LOT cheaper that regular solutions!
     
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    So approximately 12x SSD's in RAID 6= 4x 900p!? Nice!!
     
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    Their setup was using 850 EVO 1TB drives for their RAID 6 setup.

    I imagine the boost in performance is a combo of the Virtual Raid On CPU combined with Optane's abilities.
     
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    Well if my understanding of RAID 6 is still valid.

    Total Performance = 1885.71 MB/s

    Total usable capacity = 10.00 TB

    RAID Type: RAID 6 (Stripe set with double parity)
    Reads 50%, Writes 50%
    Number of RAID groups = 1
    Number of drives per RAID group = 12
    Single RAID group performance = 1885.71 MB/s

    So, not to be rude, but i am not that impressed by your example, if you use 4 x NVME and e.g an X399 or intel equivalent motherboard, you can pretty much beat that with samsung pro 860's 2tb var, and here i put in the setup as a Raid 5, while you didn't specify what raid setup they used in the example with star citizen. I don't know if intel VROC supports Raid 6, but their Raid 5 variant with write hole fix is pretty nefty.

    Total Performance = 5760 MB/s

    Total usable capacity = 6.00 TB

    RAID Type: RAID 5 (Stripe set with parity)
    Reads 50%, Writes 50%
    Number of RAID groups = 1
    Number of drives per RAID group = 4
    Total number of drives = 4
    Single RAID group performance = 5760 MB/s

    Kind regards.

    Brut.
     
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    People make such crazy SSD RAID setups for performance when dealing with various scenarios, if they scaled as miserably as 12 SSDs = 1885.71 MB/s, then they would not bother to use such solutions where speed is the key factor.

    I am fixing a PC with an unusual issue right now and it's taking more time than I hoped, but after I will dig up an example setup/build I have seen in the past similar to Star Citizen's one.
     

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    Depend of raidkontroller used :)

    Areca is my pick of choice.
     
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    Optane might have success in server platform market, in customer market it will most likely die like other revolutionary tech -> rambus.

    Anyway that radiator on photo looks very cheap. :D
     
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    I love the mention of tape at the bottom of the pyramid.
     
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    That's the duct tape that holds the pyramid together.
     

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