Intel Rocket Lake-S confirmed with PCI-Express 4.0 support

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Wait if there is a clock regression and going back to 8core with rocket is that Intel going backwards now?
     
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    Rocket Lake S boosts to 5.0 Ghz and it is 8/16 setup but has higher IPC for about 10% in other words it is going to smoke Zen 2 in gaming, make that gap even bigger. Not sure about Zen 3. They might be equal there in gaming.
     
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    what? oki, this is what I call fanboyism xd
     

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    By the time we see an 11900k on shelves, Zen 3 will likely be out. Comparing the predicted performance of Rocket Lake to Zen 2 doesn't seem appropriate. We're not comparing the 10900k to the Ryzen 1800x...
     
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    The point is will all Z490 boards support 4.0 or going to be a blanker approach "only Z590 will support 4.0 to avoid confusion".

    Not something we haven't seen from Intel over the last 3 years numerous times but I would like to see all those Z490 defenders when this happens, especially knowingly upgraded to a platform that is dead next year with the 1700 socket.
     
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    I'm really to curious to understand how the extra 4x pci express lanes will work. I m asking this myself since day 1 of this news.
    Current boards have only 16 lanes connected to the socket, for the gpu. the new cpu will have 16 + 4.

    Any clue?
     
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    I have said this before if you are upgrading and going Intel and want PCI e 4 wait for the new chipset because current Z490 board designs which claim support are going to have problems and if you can not wait forget PCI e 4 and go low cost with intention of upgrading when PCI e 4 and DDR5 support become available. with the new die shrink Intel CPU`s by which time you will have given up and gone AMD.
     
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    Strange - I thought Intel was skipping 4.0?
     

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    this might finally make Intel viable and better as a "gaming" plateform because enough lanes for at least one system nvme is mandatory in 2020 (if you ask me) and reducing your uber 1300$ videocard to 8x (or costing you 2 sata ports) wasn't a good look for the "best gaming plateform"

    considering 4.0 already demands higher quality more expensive motherboards I was hardly seeing Intel do more than 4.0 irl
     
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    I think it will be out instead of likely. I mean AMD said Zen will be released later this year and since intel just released Comet Lake i don't see them releasing new CPUs and chipset before the very end of this year at best and honestly i don't expect them before next year. Would not be surprised if Zen 3 is 2-3 months old when Rocket Lake is released. And yeah Zen 2 is like 1 year old so comparing it to a CPU that will likely be released in 5+ months is kind of silly ;)
     
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    I do not see whats different of RL layout over Zen 2. Same 20 4.0 lanes from CPU to GPU/NVME plus same bandwidth to Southbridge. (Intel 8x 3.0, AMD 4x 4.0).

    So 500 chipset, I guess Z490 dead months after it got released......
     
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    (So 500 chipset, I guess Z490 dead months after it got released....)

    You could also say the same about the Z590 chipset or what ever they decide to call it. It will be just a one hit wonder until the next new socket comes out.
     
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    Zen2 Ryzen (socket AM4) also includes USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) and reconfigurable PCIe/SATA lanes, similarily to the x570 chipset (which is based on the I/O die in Zen 2 EPYC/Threadripper that comes with a total of 64 PCIe lanes).

    400-series motherboards are not designed to use these extra 4 lanes. The whole Comet Lake S / LGA 1200 platform just makes no sense for the DIY enthusiast.
     
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