Intel Processor Refresh in Spring - 100 MHz bumps

Read the whole post, not just a little tiny snippet out of context. (Or don't and forget it, I am not taking the bait anymore, enjoy.)

 

I tried to read the whole post but the first sentence made no sense.

 

Can you imagine monopoly on power? (Someone with gun?)

I think you would not agree as much with it as "monopoly for so many years, they could do whatever they wanted and they did just that".
Your statement would not come out looking like: "If you have power, it is OK to abuse it."

And yes, "always" does not equal "recently". That makes you wrong even there.

 

still arguing over single thread performance in games .......

Its been shown many times here that above 1080p it does not matter and in most cases if your an avid down the line gamer your not on on 1080p .

And you want to pay way more for a cpu where it could be spent on vga

 

Here's my prediction for what it's worth. Zen 2 at max, in spite of its 7nm will deliver between say, a 9400 and a 3600, the same performance non-overclocked, but will have an advantage of extra cores and overclockability, whilst hopefully it will do better or match a 9600k with both chips overclocked. At the high end, i will still expect Intel to outperform AMD.

Don't get me wrong, even if the above stands true it will be a massive win for AMD still. I just think that everyone gets too overexcited by the idea of 7nm and expect it to pull AMD miles ahead.

Also, as history has shown, AMD will release Zen 2, it will do well enough to pose a threat, Intel will release its 10nm, and we will probably be just at a smaller difference between the two than we are now.

Whichever way you look at it, it is a net win for the consumer and i am glad AMD is a part of this. At the same time, i am not going to lose sleep over the fact that AMD did not completely destroy intel's current generation and its upcoming one.

 

Well if we are just going to talk about the future as though any of us can talk about it and claim it as fact as you have, then i'll just put out there that zen 2 will make every single intel cpu completely obsolete in evey way, gaming or otherwise, and there will be zero reason to get an intel cpu. Obviously this is fact, since we're talking as though our statements about future products are facts we can't know.

Obviously, both our statements are likely to not be 100% true, hence why logical people do not speak the way you do, but forward thinking, basing their opinions on logic, not unknown facts, suggests what i stated to be a "fact" above, is likely to be more correct then whatever nonsense you conjured up. You literally have nothing to back up your statement as everything that is known and expected is an IPC gain and up to 5ghz-ish speeds, which those two things combined...doesn't leave intel much room. It's almost like you see what is known and expected, but instead, claim as fact that zen2 will be...going backwards? No logic.

Honestly the main realistic questions about zen 2 us how overclockable it is, and if its not very, similar to zen, then it should be expected that when zen 2 is released the only thing intel will have over amd is overclockability, which most people don't really care about, but obviously, each person will have to decide for themselves.

 

@Aura89 Ultimate overclock doesn't mean ultimate performance. If I can enjoy zen2 without any loss, even at a half ghz less than Intel, I will prefer zen2. But I am really burnt by older amd hardware in terms of gaming, that I have lost my hope. Even with new zen1 there are a couple of titles that Intel is much much faster, rarely but it is a reality.

If amd manages to optimize their hardware to a level that can handle all workload equally, I will get it blindfolded. I await a complete upgrade to ryzen series, not just mere improvements. If I see even one game with a difference of about a third (33.3%) at framerate, I will get probably brokenhearted and be afraid.

 

Oh not again ....
Whole 100 Mhz ? Why bother ? wtf
Hopefully when the 10nm arrives we will see some real performance improvements worth upgrading . It's depressing to see the same architecture being repackaged and sold as new for years now .

 

Who cares if it's only 100 MHz, 3DMark will simply report incorrect test results to make the older processor look twice as slow.

 

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Really?

What's this, then, Sherlock?
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/cpu/Intel+Core+i7-2600K+Processor/review?