Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 14, 2014.
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Only upgraded my X58 rig cos the current one came along at a decent price.
i actually agree with this, and i do not understand why people view mantle as the holy grail especially with the new direct3d around the corner.
i respect amd for doing it. microsoft would have probably sat on their asses a few years more if amd wouldn't have pushed this initiative forward. but mantle will likely be short lived.
as you said, mandle requires more work, and we don't yet know if nvidia cards support it properly. and it will likely require new drivers, which we don't know if nvidia is willing to do. direct3d 12 will almost surely be a superset of the existing direct3d, which will make development much more streamlined. it makes more sense for developers to hop into the next direct3d.
alas, we will see.
There is no way Mantle will be short lived. Not with both consoles sporting AMD.
It will be around for quite a long time. That does not mean it will be used by everyone, sort of like Glide for 3Dfx.
Not everybody owned a Voodoo from 3Dfx, but Glide hung around till 3Dfx was no more, and people still use Glide wrappers today.
Short lived and uber popular are two very different things.
In other words, anybody on an AMD card with GCN that can take advantage of and use Mantle should and will. That's a lot more than you think.
Yeah i really do love x58 because although its old it still does a great job.
And far more flexible OCing.
What's the score with x79 oc then, not as flexible to tweak which could help in a more successful oc,x58 better then from the users perspective?
Exactly. Main thing being you can tweak the BClock without mucking with the PCIe/SATA clocks, allowing for more RAM/CPU options than 100, 125 or 166 x Multi. Can't even touch BCLK on my X79 otherwise my soundcard (firewire) stops working.
I see, im gonna put mine together so i think in maybe couple months when i get some time off.
8 core Haswell
I don't know if I'm going to update? I tried holding out but I bite and got a i7 4930k for $430 from best buy!
I may just wait till Broadwell Extreme next year as I hear they may be releasing earlier then usual as there already information coming out about the Extreme series and Xeons? By then the TDP should be tamed and but I don't expect better overclockability just less heat!
This is in your case, ( maybe due to this specific soundcard ) because you can fine tunning antything in the x79 .. mhz / mhz on the bcklock, ram etc..(0,1 / 0,1 ) .... I find it really more close of the 1366 era or even more oldschool overclocking,.... there's still some fine voltage tunning for cpu and ram that i have absolutely no idea of the impact when use them.. The thing is you dont really need all of what is present in the bios... untill you want beat some ram mhz record.
Anyway i dont use the strap method, but direct bclock + multi with setting directly my ram speed as i intend.
It probably is. Can't get bootstraps running at all. I just find it a bit of a bummer that everything is tied to BCLK, X58 (and all current AMD microarchitectures), have multiple clock domains so you can fiddle to your hearts content, up CPU and RAM (and even uncore with my old westmere chip) while leaving PCIe, SATA and everything else where it should be at 100 MHz or multiples thereof.
Intel Haswell-E and X99 platform launch September 14.
5930 here I come.
I think the price point @ eta will be in line with with the 980x when it was released.
Well hopefully not but i have a feeling the 8c will be $999+ and the 6c $700+.