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Intel Flagship Core i9-9990XE has only 14 activated cores, not 18

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. schmidtbag

    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    I think you're blowing this a bit out of proportion...
    All he was saying is "many cores don't OC very well". That's just simply a fact. If you take that as a jab at Intel, it is you who is biased.
    And sure, AMD has clock related issues too, but those occur regardless of the amount of cores you have.
     
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    JamesSneed Master Guru

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    Lol exactly. Now trying moving the contents of your house across the country, the semi will smoke the 50 trips it takes the two door sports car. The car may have better single threaded performance be it gets killed in multi threaded performance by the semi.
     
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    Order_66 Master Guru

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    I second that, asrock has been nothing but trouble for me with both AMD and Intel.
     
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    It will be a while till I abandon my 5930K at 4.6 GHz, that said, I am cheering for AMD.

    Asrock has been good to me.
     
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    angelgraves13 Maha Guru

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    Intel continues to embarrass themselves...
     
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    No, you embarasd yourself by posting this...

    Fastest has never been cheap ;)
     
  7. DeskStar

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    Nothing from intel as of late has and could be considered a "bargain...." I'm just pissed the computer parts have gone the way of shite when talking prices. Unbelievable they're able to sell at these prices. Then again....if people didn't buy it at said prices they wouldn't be able to do it.
     
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    that's why i have three 1.5k PSU's on hand at all times. Two of which are always hooked up to the main rig.
     
  9. schmidtbag

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    That's why I said "compared to Xeons". Though, after taking a look at the actual 14c/28t Xeons from 2017, they're actually not as ludicrously expensive as I expected. Still overpriced, but I thought I recalled the i9s being thousands of dollars cheaper, but apparently not.
     
  10. DeskStar

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    Right on. I just remember the days with a high end CPU and GPU in your system that didn't run over 1.5-2k USD in a killer build. Now that's the cost of a graphics card let alone CPU's.

    Come back with the days of the $4-500 six core twelve threaded releases that have pretty much on them capability wise in the way of what is offered today. Oh and that was almost seven to eight years ago!
     

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    I see what you're saying but I somewhat disagree. High-end hardware from 8 years ago was probably the cheapest in computer history but it was also the least impressive relative to consumer-level products. There weren't any major new technologies, there weren't any CPUs with really high core counts, it was rare to see a GPU with more than 2GB of VRAM, and so on. SSDs were the only kinda new thing, and they were very expensive.
    Go back another 8 years and you'll find high-end hardware (when adjusting for inflation) wasn't really a whole lot cheaper than it is now, and it got obsoleted within months. Go back another 8 years and you'll find high-end desktop PCs that cost as much as a brand new modern economy car, without accounting for inflation.

    But today, it's not so easy to make such comparisons. In previous decades, high-end hardware was, at best, 3x faster than consumer grade, but usually no more than twice as good. Now, we're looking at high-end hardware that even exceeds 8x the performance of a mainstream laptop. Sure, modern hardware is ludicrously expensive, but it's also proportionately way more powerful than what we're used to. Since most software hasn't (and probably won't) utilize so many CPU cores, you can still get a very good PC for a reasonable price. Buying high-end now is more of a status symbol rather than necessity, and hardware doesn't obsolete as quickly as it used to.

    Of course, 4K-capable GPUs are a bit of the exception. Those are currently the only hardware that I find to be way too expensive for what they can do.
     
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    This is just a factory overclocked 14 core CPU so it is just as embarrassing as the AMD FX9590, because the CPU is well past its optimal efficiency.
    I am ready to put money on that this CPU is not going to stick with the TDP on most motherboards either, they are going to run it at 300-350W or less then stock and sell it for more, because the part number is higher.
     
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    Its funny reading some of these comments.

    Fact is Intel has a better product and AMD is two years behind.

    I bought the 7820X in June 2017 and only in 2019 Q3 might AMD catch up and have simular IPC performance.

    The X299 platform is rock solid and offers quad channel memory.

    With the 9990XE its a cpu i can buy down the road when its cheaper in a couple years or save and look forward to X399 10nm or 10nm+.

    At the end of the day it comes down to your requirements and tolerance.

    Before the 7820X i had the Core i5 750 Lynnfield, wait along time to upgrade. Some people buy the best and stretch the dollar.

    Honestly waiting for Nvidia 3080 RTX and going mobile with 12core cpu. Its getting pretty sweet. Just gotta time your cycles.

    Peace.
     
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    Like you say, it is all about preference.
    A top 1 gen. Threadripper is faster then the 7820x at some work loads and the Intel 8700k was faster at many gaming loads.
    The X299 platform was not rock solid in the beginning, and the heatspreader/thermal paste problem, kept me away from buying into the platform.
     
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    Lost interest in the core count once it went above 8c/16t.
     
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    As a HEDT customer, I find it rather distasteful how their "flagship" product has less cores and less cache than the 9980XE. This product is basically a binned 9940X that's been overclocked - could they really not call it the 9940XE instead? What's next? A binned 9960X called the 9999XE?

    The increase in performance comes nowhere close to justifying the increase in TDP (and of course the TDP is base clocks only so who knows how high it will go at turbo). A stupid product, in general. I'm surprised they didn't do another 5 GHz all core demo using a chiller :p (still waiting for that 28-core 5 GHz CPU)
     
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  17. angelgraves13

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    According to who? You? Hahahahahahahahaha
     
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    Dude I'm on six to eight year old hardware at most. And there's people going back to said hardware because of today being a joke in lieu of limitations.

    Let me give you 44 PCI-e lanes and then make them lanes limited for the next foreseeable future. But make more hardware run off of limited lanes. M.2 being the biggest carrot dangled in peoples faces altogether...

    That is if you're talking about "consumer level" hardware that is. Come on...... and really with he inflation shtuff and speak of that far back then sure by all means let me back up that semi sized computer to your house from back when.

    You kinda but don't see my point but then disagree entirely about my point and say nothing tangible in regards to said point.

    Limited hardware now after said hardware was mainstream BEFORE is my gripe. Let me spell it out there now that i feel i need to.
     
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    And I've been gaming on this ancient hardware at 4K, so it really hasn't been ll that bad.

    Now i game on it in 6880X2880 DSR and its a dream. Couldn't be happier with my investment as I see it at this point its putting money back into my pockets. And i have this monster system waiting for something worthy to let it cool it.
     
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    i3 2120 + GTX 1060 is pretty much all I need for 1080p gaming. What gives? Pft.
     

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