Intel Expands on Xe Product positioning - Shows DG1 Development card photos and Xe Slides

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  3. asturur

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    What do you mean?
     
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    They are aiming for entry level so could be around that level of performance.
     

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    interesting alien style heatsink design
    to be honest I don't understand what this is for, they talk mobile, cars, servers and use a game to demo it ? so pretty much everything the only thing missing is Todd Howard saying "it just works" lol
     
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    Why is this surprising? Most GPU architectures span multiple markets. Turing is used in games, data center and cars for example. Vega is used in mobile, data center and games.
     
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    Excellent. The more competing the better.
     
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    we need this more than we want it. nvidia has reigned supreme over this scene for the longest time exhausting most consumers with their ridiculous prices, it has to end. I just hope intel doesn't follow suite with the pricing.
     
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    Less then 75w? Card can will end up 1050 and rx550 performance at best.
     
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    I just hope it won't be another Polaris-like endeavour... Back then I hoped that Intel was finally releasing nVidia/Ati GPU competitor, and it turned out to be a not-so-good compute-only chip...
     

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    If you have to judge it from those picture, it can't compete with any ati or nvidia, since it does not even have video output.

    Intel is working on it and they bothered to screw a fan over a card with plastic cover, to give an image to the product, of any kind, that without it would feel like a bunch of slides and some misterious thing.
     
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    This looks like a fart honestly ... a smelly and silent one :D

    I just couldn't' help it ... sorry guys.
     
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    It has 4 on the pictures.
     
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    Not sure what you're looking at.... Might need to check the spectacles and or clean that monitor screen off....?
     
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    You are blind, there's three Displayport and one HDMI.

    But as the others said, this is a low-end card, probably destined for OEM builds...
    Those that are expecting competition with nVidia (and AMD) will either never get it, or only on the bottom-of-the-barrel cheapest cards.
     

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    I dont know why it needs them a standard VGA connector would be fine since it will be more than enough to drive 1024x768 while surfing the web and 800x600 while gaming.

    I bet its on par with 8800GTS 640MB give or take ... integer scalling is a must on this one ;)
     
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    This is a low power sample to give developers an idea of the architecture. Not a final product. Even if they had a semi final product, they would not show it now.

    We don't know what kind of scaling is possible with the architecture (see current Zen as an example. AMD just slaps a few more cores on each chip and doubles, triples, quadruples performance).
    We don't know what kind of segment this sample is from. It could very well be their entry level line, meant for Smartphones and ultrabooks. Or it could be their best shot at Datacenter compute. We just don't know at all.
    We don't know how much they are willing to show right now. You usually lowball pretty hard if you are a big player, but a newcomer in a fresh segment of the market. There is enough Hype around this without any big promises, just because it is a big player like Intel.
    If they push it too hard, they can only disappoint, which would be a disaster for a launch product that could very well be in the 2-3 digit billion investment range.

    People jumping to conclusions on final performance could just as well check with their local crystal ball at this point.
    What they need is developers giving feedback on the architecture while they can still adjust it somewhat.
     
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    You don't start building supersonic jets, when all you did before was build toys. You won't see an enthusiast gpu from Intel until 2022 if ever. This is what happens when your real product has stagnated, but you still have $100 billion dollars to start experimenting. Intel will never be the go to Gpu provider. But when you have more money than common sense you can talk yourself in to anything. Yes Yes Yes I know competition is good for pricing for the consumer. Look at the AMD/Nvidia competition. Prices are so low I don't know who to buy from, maybe one from each company. [​IMG]
     
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    I am happy there is a 3rd player coming. I don't expect them to do much in the first round or 2 of releases but they may eventually give AMD and Nvidia some actual competition.

    I would be happier if the 3rd player were some other company that wasn't already a bit... greedy? But whatever. It's a 3rd option. Maybe.
     

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