Intel DG2 GPU To Get Released This Year features Ray Tracing support natively

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    I am really interested in this
     
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    Mostly interested for a third party to the table . Maybe prices come back to AFFORDABLE levels .
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    That would be logic, however, you now have three GPU manufacturers fighting over TSMC production capacity, that process works with bidding, which again can drive prices up.
     
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    When I noticed video card prices jumped 100 euros from last week, I'm certainly more and more eager to see a third manufacturer enter the GPU market. Intel might not have traditionally been the one to drive prices down, but when they are the newcomer starting from zero, they can't very well price their products too high, unless the cards are totally out of this world performance wise. But they won't be.
     
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    Mpampis Member Guru

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    It could. But I doubt Intel's induction to the GPU game will drive the demand for GPUs to increase. Which could mean that TSMC will still have to provide the same amount of silicon, but with a different distribution ratio.
     
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    I hope it too, but the word "affortable"... maybe i am pessimistic lol.
     
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    I doubt Intel would greatly undercut the competition in price, probably make it within 10% of competitor prices assuming comparable output even as the new player to the market (based on their pricing approaches in other products).
     
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    Not about demand. But about price of supply. TSMC has limited production capacity. If you want what AMD/nVidia want, you'll have to pay more when negotiating capacity.
    And then they'll top your bid. And price of silicon goes up => GPU's go up in price as result.
     
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    hmmm well if it is on 7nm too ... we will have everything ryzen epyc and threadripper there ...radeons ... and now intel gpus ..... if dg 2 eats only on amds sales will be the same .... nvidia is on samsung .... but if dg2 eat a bit from nvidia sales too that would mean more strain to that foundry ... more bids etc ... anyway we will see till they come out the production might be caught up ...somewhat with the demand
     

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    color me intrugued.not gonna experimient though,I'll only consider it if it's truly a better product.
    boy,1st gen intel cards releasing faster and more stable than rdna would be ironic.
    that 6nm would be hella expensive.just look at 7nm enhanced.

    that also mean that tsmc will have to handle all amd and intel 6/7nm gpus as well as all console variants.
    meanwhile nvidia is probably gonna go with samsung's 5nm next round and have 8nm exclusively for gaming ampere .... and some said their decision was "the dumbest ever".....

    [​IMG]
     
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    I can actually see the worst nightmare happening, all 3: nvidia, AMD and Intel GPUs having exorbitant prices, basically them doing the scalping.
    Why leave all that $$$ to scalpers when clearly there are enough fools with more money than sense to buy them at any price?
     
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    It's 6nm process,so it doesn't take resources from 7nm, but I'm more concerned driver issues...
     
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    6nm is just a name it's like 7nm v2
     
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    That would be the logic but as HH said, TSMC production is limited and companies bid for it. Unless Global Foundries and Samsung step up, we won't see lower prices anytime soon.
     

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    If Intel releases something competitive (including price) and actually has product available, I'll buy it. Though if I were a Windows user, I'd be real hesitant to buy it - Intel is pretty quick to abandon outdated products on Windows, and this GPU series is going to need a lot of TLC to be fully caught up.
     
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    I would rather have more refined and compatible driver from Intel than adding RT.
     
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    Man. So many different things going on in my mind right now.

    Lack of production for true products that will make a level playing field between manufacturing companies. To many hands in the pot reaching for their piece of that proverbial pie!

    Intel seems like they may be doing this in order to hinder some of the supplies to other parts of the industry. I mean not exactly for them reasons, but there's no way their first foray into the GPU realm they're going to best the competition in a way that makes people truly want to jump ship....

    I see it slowing down the production of true products that people are/do want now and to come.
     
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    It isn't their first. This may be their first dGPU that's actually worth anyone's interest, but Intel has made good iGPUs since Sandy Bridge. I know, a lot of you are about to burst out laughing over how ridiculous that sounds, but that's because all many of you care about is 3D performance, which is not what should be the top priority of an integrated GPU. It should first and foremost be as widely compatible with graphics technologies as it can be (which for Intel, it usually is, if you exclude proprietary Nvidia tech) and secondly, it should be able to handle them efficiency. Intel for a long while was the only solution to build a custom HTPC with 4K video playback in a sub-20W system, with support for a wide range of codecs. Intel has offered enough performance to handle GPU accelerated applications like web browsers, photo editors, and office suites. In the couple of times where Intel included a large cache for the iGPU, it would outperform AMD's best in gaming benchmarks.

    So, Intel for a while has known how to make something good, it's just only now have they bothered to enhance and upscale it. I'm not sure why it took them so long.
     
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    Is this your way of saying politely that we are ******?...
     

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