Intel CPUs are Still Better - Says Intel

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  1. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    It depends in what scenario and what cpu's you are comparing. But that is a question you know ;)

    For med Performance is all. Per dollar I don't care.

    I just buy the fastest hardware :p
     
  2. MegaFalloutFan

    MegaFalloutFan Master Guru

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    Sure, I agree but the situation you described usually happens after people decided on a build, so they already buying this brand or that brand and now thinking if they should pay more for faster CPU.
    Most people in the budget category are stuck with small sums they can spend on whole PC and thats it, they dont have anything else, you can see tons of such requests on reddit and forums, asking for help to build best build for the sum they have.
    I assume these are teenagers, kids and people living on strict budget and have their paycheck already spent months ahead on bills and groceries and use whats left to build a PC.

    Same thing, every year a new CPU comes out i buy the fastest mainstream CPU and thats it, its the fastest, i dont need to know anything else.
    People are lazy and dont understand there are schemes how to upgrade CPU/GPU every generation and not spent full prices.
     
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  3. D3M1G0D

    D3M1G0D Ancient Guru

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    Many of us buy high-end gear, but we're the minority. Enthusiasts are stupid with money - my friend's PC is far less powerful than mine, but he spent his money far more wisely than I did (nevertheless, I'm still going to buy a 3950X on day one :p).

    I would think that would be part of the process of deciding on a build. If you want to buy a faster CPU that provides better value then you would need to subtract something else. The build that you finally decide upon should be the best build you can buy for the money that still fits your needs.

    Yes, and those people would need to even more cognizant of products which provide the best performance per dollar. They don't have much to spend, so they need to ensure that what they buy will be worth it.

    In general, people want good value for their money - nobody wants to feel that they've overpaid for something or that they've made a bad purchasing decision.
     
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  4. Ryu5uzaku

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    Supposedly if you still use Intels compiler it will choose slowest path when it comes down to AMD parts. From what I gathered they never fixed it. (I might be wrong and the did).

    But if game is compiled on something else it should be closer. For example counter strike is interesting example.
     

  5. ladcrooks

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    yes your right , checked , where was my mind ? ;)
     
  6. nz3777

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    I think Qualcomm will take the title from both of them real soon! I heard they are making a 50core /100 thread cpu that runs at 8ghz boost clock,Has a GPU equivalent to a Gtx 1080ti and costs $120 Dollars w a bundled Rgb cooler as well! How can you compete with something like that?

    Shits gonna hit the fan real soon maybe I wasn't supposed to say anything but oh well i dnt work for a tech company so they cant do crap to me. :)
     
  7. ZXRaziel

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    I have seen No one claiming that the AMD chips are faster for gaming , everyone even the fanboys know that Intel still has the edge in gaming , why is this used as an argument to prove point , it's so annoying now. The simple truth is that Intel is better in some areas and AMD in others , and yes AMD usually gives better value for money and that matters to some customers , others don't care about that , choose whatever you want or whatever suits your needs . Choice is good have fun .
     
  8. ZXRaziel

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    Just for the sake of fairness ,
    There was a time not so long ago when Intel had dominated synthetic benchmarks too ( and not always by fair play wink ) , and the " brand enthusiasts " have been using it as a argument .
    People have short memory , only few years ago certain individuals ( still active here ) have fought anyone who claimed that the future is multicores , superpi was the benchmark of choice ....... then it was two cores are enough , and later all you will ever need is 4 cores ....bla blaa bla
    So who was right ?
     
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  9. Clanger

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    4 cores is all i need tops, most of the time i dont use em :D
     
  10. angelgraves13

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    I'll just leave this here...

    https://i.**********/RhQkpR0P/download.jpg
     
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  11. Jif peanut butter is the best, according to Jif
     
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  12. airbud7

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    I love Jif peanut butter
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  13. Fox2232

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    Number of games where I am GPU limited and reach stable 240fps is not small. Especially in case of competitive fps games. And that's still Zen+.
    @Denial : I can tell difference between ~140 and ~235 to what I limit frame rate in fps games.
    Would not be able to tell those apart in isometric games like Path of Exile or strategy games.

    Games like Warframe, Dead Island, Paladins, CS:GO reach stable 235+ fps.
    Games like Killing Floor 2 and Vermintide 2, I am GPU limited.
     
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    You get the ~5% difference with a 2080Ti on FHD. Maybe 0,01% of the 2080Ti owners use their $1100 card on FHD, wiseguy. :)
    +AMD is faster in applications hungry for multi-core and matches Intel in most single-core applications except for games. Buy what you want. :)

    You are absolutely right. And the average difference in games is around 5%, which can only be measured when using the current high-end GPU on FHD, which is nonsense and not life lifelike.
     
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  15. nizzen

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    I have 3900x AND 9900k, and I do buy what I want :)

    In Battlefield V Multiplayer I got 30%+ higher fps 9900k overclocked cpu/mem VS 3900x oc cpu/mem :)

    I'm not at brand fanboy, I'm a performancefanboy. ;)
     

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    And you are playing 720p on low details or what? Maybe you are running game in DX11 to get SLI working and disable just those incompatible effects? But then from videos I have seen, frametimes are no good.
    2080Ti: https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1877/bench/BFV.png
     
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  17. Agonist

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    This isnt AM3+ days anymore. So really this argument is rather stupid.
     
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  18. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    1080p and dx 12 to get higher fps.

    3900x with 2080ti was about 160-170fps in devastation map.
    9900k was about 225 fps in the same map with the same gpu :).
    :p

    Sorry, but I'm just testing both systems...

    Looks like the ~50% lower latency in 9900k is doing some magic in some games :)
     
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    gotta be crunchy though
     
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  20. Loophole35

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    Peter Pan honey roasted is better. Fight me.
     
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