Intel Could Fight off AMD Ryzen 5000 just based on lower prices

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  1. suty455

    suty455 Master Guru

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    Add a cooler and that difference vanishes, pair the intel with a discrete GPU and the IGP is turned off, whilst its true this will be the last hurrah for the AM4 socket, if you buy a 400+ mobo you will probably be able to upgrade to the 5000 series at some point with 3600 ram , if you look at it that way the Intel product is a poor buy especially if you look at the B550 which adds PCIe 4 the motherboards are better than the Intel offering as well and will give you another genarational jump and a 19% IPC uplift in the future or just buy the 5600 when its released next month
     
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    Yep, I'll wait, but it won't be out next month, the 5600 is rumoured for Q1 2021. Anyway, a 10400 for 155€ is a very good buy for budget gaming in a hurry.
     
  3. bobblunderton

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    Asus x570 Tuf Gaming Wifi Plus (or non-wifi version) Can get this at Best Buy
    Asus P-Pro (x570 chip set) - same VRM as Hero line up for x570. Can get at Micro Center or online (check stock)
    Gigabyte Aorus (whole line-up on x570) Can get at Micro Center or online
    These 3 boards have good VRM's as per reviewers and even on Linus Tech Tips.

    This coming from someone who made an Asrock Phantom Gaming 4 x570 go belly up with a stock 3950x and a Noctua cooler in roughly 60 days (after running a 3700x for a year). No more cheap boards, have to keep using Asus / Gigabyte.
    The Asrock was decent, but like buying a good name-brand PSU, get a good motherboard, it just makes life a little more painless and straight-forward.

    Whether choosing Ryzen 3000, 4000g, 5000 series, or intel 9xxx or 10xxx series, there's nothing either of these systems CAN'T run smoothly, period. Either one will last you years. Buy what you want that's affordable to you. Best bang for the buck processors are always the nicest ones to have - enough performance while not leaving a hole in the wallet.
     
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    I hate Intel because they change sockets all the time for no real reason other then to sell more motherboards.
    I hate Intel because they locked RAM speeds on non Z series boards for no reason other then to sell more Z motherboards.
    I hate Intel because they lock overclocking of non K chips on Z series boards.
    They basically force you to get a Z series board and they rack up the price on them.

    Don't trust Intel.
    Intel is asshole.
     
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  5. Fediuld

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    And performance drops few weeks after reviews due to security mitigation.
    All affected from Ivy Bridge to Comet Lake with the last round of fixes that dropped on Linux and coming on Windows too.

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-59-9900k&num=1
     
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  6. Neo Cyrus

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    You missed the part where they nearly sunk AMD by using illegal tactics/bribes and probably blackmail to get companies to not use AMD products despite the fact that at the time AMD had the best CPUs in the world and Intel was selling dog crap. They lost the lawsuit when it was finally settled what must have been over a decade later, and I wouldn't be surprised if they still haven't paid. The thing is such amounts are chump change that are calculated by companies ahead of time, such lawsuits are just calculated as a part of business. When AMD failed to compete from 2006 until they released Zen 1 in 2017, that was 11 years of total control their earlier illegal tactics granted them.

    Companies do crap like that all the time and just pay up when they lose lawsuits because it was worth the cost... the cost which was calculated to begin with. There needs to be hard jail time for these crimes or it will never end. We need to see CEOs, and department heads, behind bars, for literally decades. A person could steal some chump change and spend a decade in jail, but a company destroying billions worth for another company and setting the world behind who knows how long? Naw, 0 jail time. 'Murica.

    I'm thoroughly convinced the world's technology is many years behind because of how far back they set AMD when they nearly killed them off then sandbagged for 11 procreating years.

    Now they're going to go an entire year without having a CPU to answer AMD because of their greed and hubris in general... eat crap Intel.
     
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    They need to fix their temp crap so we can overclock like sandybridge and not to have to delid and crap..
     
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    I thought they went back to soldering the ihs on the 9th an 10tj serues like they did on sandy briedge, but this is a goog point and it shows how cheap they are and how much they really care about overclocking even with their k and z bullshit.
    I think amd is greedy I mean 300 dollars for a 6 core is a lot. They would make more money overall if they lowered the prices to the level of a 3600. Their whole deal was that they could increase the yelds by using chiplet design, but now they seem to think that being on top for a change makes them the best and they forget about who actually buys their cpus. The 5000 series already has the disadvantages of being on a dead platform seeing how ddr5 is coming and so they will have to change sockets to am5 for the 6000 series.
     

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