Intel Core X series processor family and X299 chipset Announced at Computex May 30th

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. GeniusPr0

    GeniusPr0 Maha Guru

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    12 core extreme....
     
  3. BLEH!

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    Do we have an ETA for the 12- and 16-core Ryzen CPUs?
     
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    Panic reaction? Please, they don't just produce a new 12-core die within a few weeks/months out of "panic", this takes planning for years.

    What I'm more interested in are the rumors about Coffee Lake 6 cores coming this summer already on the 370 platform.
     

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    Can you imagine the price on that thing? :D
     
  6. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    This CPU/Chipset series was originally planned for the Q4 Christmas 2017 season. Ryzen launched and it already got moved to August. Rumors of 12/16 core Ryzen parts appeared and all of the sudden Intel makes a move to Computex and invested reportedly spent over US$100 million to accelerate its pace of manufacturing.

    Yes panic reaction, these parts might have been designed ready, but where not ready for fabbing this soon already.
     
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    Well the 10-core Core i7-6950X is like 1825 bucks. So for the 12 core part that is 182.5 x 12 = 2190 Euro. Lets call it an even 2K CPU.

    The Ryzen 7 8-core 1800X is like 525 Euro is 66 Euro per core. So their 12-core part would cost just under 800 bucks.

    With Ryzen available, honestly I cannot see them increasing prices at all and they might even be lowering their pricing structure, like they have to.
     
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    Oh crap I just finished building my new system. Oh well here we go again! :banana:
     
  9. Loophole35

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    I would hope they lower the prices. They really have to or they will not sell this new HEDT platform to anyone but their devoted fanbois.

    That said if the entry level 8 core product comes in around r7 1800x price they could be viable options.

    How I would price these.

    7740k (KLX) 16 lanes 4.2-4.5 $280
    7800k 6/12 28 lanes 3.8-4.0 $350
    7850k 6/12 44 lanes 3.8-4.1 $415
    7900k 8/16 44 lanes 3.7-3.9 $550
    7950k 10/20 44 lanes 3.6-3.9 $800
    7990k 12/24 44 lanes 3.5-3.9 $1200
    This is not based on any facts just my fantasy.
     
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    The release date is panic not the chip itself, this thing was made to come in 4 months not two and this give merit to the amd x399 hedt platform.. it will be fun
     

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    I see very few people buying a 12 core at an even greater price than their current top of the range 10 core chip.

    As long as AMD can match the features such as quad channel etc, Intel will have to keep responding.

    Great news for us consumers in the long run, but for right now anything you buy might be surpassed far quicker than normal.
     
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    This^^ Intel´s high end pricing structure was broken by Ryzen and the only way to change the situation is lower the prices of their cpus to reasonable terms. I wonder if Intel still remembers what reasonable prices look like...

    In my opinion Intel would be better cutting the prices of their current high end cpus than releasing newer ones but that´s me.
     
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    The question is:
    Who will buy this Skylake-X(or X299) when CoffeLake(and 300 series chipset),or whatever name will be,will coming Soon™.

    Indeed panic and Milking the market is already usual at Intel.

    Hey Intel board: Fire that old fart CEO and put someone with vision of future.Dammit
     
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    The same people that bought X99? The same people that bought Ryzen?

    It's arguably easier to do with CPU's because generation -> generation changes are like nothing. Like look at the list of coffeelake enhancements. I don't care about any of those.
     
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    If the x399 from amd comes at the same time and it has 64 pci-e lanes, prftt i am switching to amd hedt with a 12 core day one
     

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    Need to sell my 5960X sooner than I thought! Need that 12 core and that 4 core ;)
     
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    Idk, I'm definitely going to end up either Skylake-X or Snowy Owl or w/e AMD is calling their HEDT stuff. My worry is that AMD can bring the core count but the clock speed will be limited.

    Guess we'll see.

    I do like Ryzen though. I built a 1700 system for a friend of mine (he does mostly video editing type work) and he hasn't stopped telling me how good the performance is, especially for encoding. I also ran a few games on it, he doesn't game but I made him get a RX480 because everyone should game - system played everything extremely well and total cost was about $1200. An Intel system with the same level of encoding/game performance would probably cost a lot more. I felt like his use case was perfect for Ryzen though.
     
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    Dont expect a 12 core SLX to bring 5.0 ghz or something like that, kaby lake X is garbage anyhow a four core on a hedt with dual memory channel support only..

    intel being mediocre as usual
     
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    You don't have to upgrade, 4 cores Is more than enough for the next 5 years, at least for gaming.
     
  20. Ryu5uzaku

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    I do think amds 12 and 16 cores could very well be 4ghz if thermals allow it. Else not.
     

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