Intel Core i9-12900K samples available on the Chinese black market for 700 USD

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Intel is not careful enough nowadays.
    We know nearly nothing about AMD's next move but Intel's cpu already on the market more than a month before it releases.
     
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    mackintosh Master Guru

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    This has already happened with the 11700K. If the demand is there, someone's going to do it. Besides, does secrecy really matter when specifications have already been released a while ago? The only real losers here are the tech media who must abide by NDAs, while they get upstaged by leakers. This is unacceptable.
     
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    Cool, now I'll just plug that into my LGA1700 board I don't have....
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    This means we might get some early reviews from some reputable sites.
    Not just some random leaks, from unknow sources and disputable benchmarks.
     
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    Reputable sites are under NDAs. Unless they can source these chips from legitimate retail outlets, we won't be seeing anything other than random leaks from twitter "insiders".
     
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    It´s impossible to contain leaks when we are so close to release.

    The same happens with Nvidia and AMD.
     
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    yes but it's a matter of scale.
    you will never find "hundreds" of ES2 gpu under any circumstances and AMD ES2 cpu require inert rendering (like acrylic plaques or destruction)
    Intel on the other hand is far more generous with supply because they are the fab.
     
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    That's pretty cheap if you don't mind the risk and Intel's potential to hunt you down.
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    Anandtech (Dr. Ian Cutress) did the review for the 10700K before the end of NDA, because they bought a sample, from a store, earlier than NDA.
    And Intel didn't penalize the site or Dr. Ian Cutress. They keep receiving products and doing interviews with Intel personnel.

    So maybe they can do it again. Or maybe some other site.
    Maybe even Guru3d.
     
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    No NDA's for retail parts

    I was going to take the piss and say that must be over a month's wages but checking the Chinese average wage it has increased quite drastically in 10 years, tripled in fact.
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    Exactly.
     
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    Which is exactly what I wrote? But these aren't being sold by retail outlets, so no reputable site will go anywhere near them.
     
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    Horus-Anhur Ancient Guru

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    Both Anandtech and Gamers Nexus bought Rocket Lake CPUs, before the NDA date.
    These are reputable sites. I think Anandtech has been doing hardware reviews for longer than Guru3d. Although the founder, Anand is no longer there. He is working now at Apple.
    And Dr Ian Curtis keeps doing interviews with Intel.
    Just yesterday, he did another one.

    https://www.youtube.com/c/TechTechPotato
     
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    both Anandtec and The Voodoo Guru was established 1997

    > And Dr Ian Cuttress keeps doing interviews with Intel.

    Ian is complicit in misrepresenting hardware capabilities, he is the sole reason that the false information that nvidia has no hardware scheduling has perpetuated all these years.
     
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    From what I have seen in several tech analysts, not only anandtech, the scheduler in nVidia cards, was significantly simplified in kepler. Making it smaller and more reliant in software, than Fermi.
    But if this is wrong, I would like to see some proof of it and learn something new.
    BTW, it was Ryan Smith that did the reviews for GPUs in Anandtech. Until his house burned down in a fire. Anandtech hasn't published any GPU review for over a year.
    Dr. Ian Curtis does the CPU reviews.
     
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    Again, they bought them at retail. We're discussing the Chinese black market here, not a retail outlet. If a CPU can be legally sourced from a retail establishment, then obviously it is not covered by an NDA. An engineering sample stolen from an Intel production line and sold somewhere in China most certainly is.
     
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    o_O thanks for that, i've been misremembering for a while then.
     
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    I want to see our lovable, despised, buggy but dramatically improving Cyberpunk tested with this CPU and a 3090. Visuals on their highest settings with DLSS on quality. UE5 would be fun to watch also. I'm still enjoying my 10900 but that 12900 is looking extra special. It would mean a whole new computer just to run it.

    Hmmm.....I dunno......It would literally have to be double or triple the performance for me to upgrade. My days of exchanging parts every 6-8 months are behind me. Maybe! :p
     
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    not surprising, intel hands out engineering samples like candy, they leak quite often.
     

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