Intel Core i9-11900K processor review

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    If you have b-die, you need like
    1.25-1.3v VCCSA
    1.20-1.25v VCCIO
    1.4-1.5vdram (depends on bin of the dimms) And hold it under 45c :)
     
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    Indeed, this is Intel's Prescott for 2021

    If you look at Anandtech's review here

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/1230

    The front page and conclusion page are like a time machine into the present day. The $1100 Prescott makes the current one seem cheap.

    I love Anands optimism with it "Given that we’re at the very beginning of the 90nm ramp and we are already within reach of 4GHz, it isn’t too far fetched that Prescott will reach 5GHz if necessary next year."

    They didn't even get as far as 4Ghz. Then after being kicked by AMD they brought out Dothan as a taster, a far better chip designed for laptops. Back in the day I sent 2 DFI motherboards over to the USA for a young overclocker called KingPin to try out, he was chasing Macci at the time on benching.

    Then Conroe came out and the rest is history, or it was for AMD until Zen popped up ...

    Got to luv a good battle.
     
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    Given the above Intel have on the hardware side gone sideways over the last generation and the increased IPC is offset with seemingly lower overclocking, more power and cooling needed and some stability issues with the 11900k, perhaps due to this very late introduced new boost function.

    If I was Hilbert I would not give it a recommended, Hilbert, you need to toughen up on recommended. At least for the casual reader. Even if you say not recommended it is mild compared to what Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed have said this week.

    Where I think Hilbert is too kind I think equally those two youtube " for the kidz" channels have been too harsh.

    The actual main problem with the Rocket lake is not the performance as such, but the pricing level. As an analogy, Intel have decided to price this at Bell X15 performance levels over the last version.

    Every 10xxxx series is value for money now in comparison. If Intel had this at last generation prices then the amount of flak would be a lot less. They seem to be trying to pay for their development cycle by adding $$ more. They are not currently in a position to do this. Ask AMD how to work in the zone of not much light at the end of the tunnel, they have had years of it.

    You'd think that would be obvious wouldn't you? Not to Intel it seems.
     
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    Well,its just a 2020/2021 thing from Intel.Lets move along. :)

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    These memes are becoming tiresome to look at already.... such is the regurgitation of someone else's 20seconds of work rather than putting in a valid viewpoint with some thought ...

    such is Generation A or Millennial or anyone who cannot think for themselves and have to just cut and paste ...

    Says me, Generation X, who had to set the IRQ on a sound card by using a jumper ... :p
     
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    Rocket Lake is a big April Fool Joke ;)
     
  7. Turanis

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    Well,its not our fault,but Intel.Good products at the right price mean less memes. :)
     
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    Yeah b-die. im around that vccsa, ok a little lower 1.20v for both and ram 1.45v and yeah max i saw was 43c :)

    Ok I tested trfc 450 and it passed,also got better aida64 memory and cinebench single as well, best so far :D
     
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    Honestly I don't understand how this waste of sand could get a recommended rating. It makes absolutely no sense as a product, is terrible value and consumes a ton of energy.
     
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    Amd might as well hand free x570 mobo to any 5800X and it would match the price.
     

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    Does it consume a ton of energy in games? No
    If you don't play Cinebench 24/7 it's totally fine. There is noe problem at all to cool 11700k/11900k, even 11900k @ 5300 all core is easy to cool with 360 aio.
    People that don't have the products tend to have the most problems with them :D

    Powerdraw in games with 3090, is pretty much the same for my 5900x VS my 11900k :) Just saying :p

    For playing Cinebench 24/7, 5900x/5950x is the way better choice ;)
     
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    What voltage are you running through the 11900k dude?
     
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    The 5800x is $100 cheaper, performs basically identically and uses less power when idle, less power in gaming and way less power when doing any kind of rendering.

    There is no argument to be made for this CPU. You sitting here defending it is eroding any credibility you have.
     
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  14. nizzen

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    is 5800x 200$ cheaper than 11700k?

    I'm defending the fact it is better than people say. Not my fault younoobers don't know how to test ;)

    11700k/11900k is not the best product in the world, but 5800x isn't either ;)

    The powerdraw is not an argument for most people. Look at the powerdraw of 2020/2021 gpu's. When you can easy cool the hardware, 20w difference in powerusage is nothing in gaming ;)
     
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    Why would you think I'm comparing it to the 11700k?

    I found a best buy price for $550 so I edited my post from the initial $200 to $100 but the same argument applies. It's 18% cheaper for basically the same processor and a lower TOC. Techpowerup has it as only 2% faster than 5800x at any real resolution and Guru3D is barely more at 4%.
     

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    I think we are in a bit better situation today, back then, prescott's heat and power issues worsened due to no enough available cooling solutions and motherboards with VRMs that could withstand its power draw. I don't remember exactly but in 2004, the AiOs to cool such a thing were not sold, at best some dudes made their waterblocks at home. Even high tower air coolers were not mainstream until about 2008 or so and AiOs did become common around 2012/13. You cannot have a high hopes of cooling 130 W and higher TDPs with just low-profile downward-draft heatsink like were used back then in smaller cases with at best 2 case fans. Sure the performance was bad, but if it would not fail due to overheating or power problems, someone might have a use for it, just like they do now with 11900K.
     
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    you're running gear 2 mode

    depends on your spd and vcsa/vccio
    I got 4133 16-16-16-31 trfc 400trfc stable at 1.45v
     
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    Yes, and?
    Better than 3733c14 1:1
     
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    is 3733 the limit ?
     
  20. nizzen

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    It's the limit on my 11700k. Haven't testet max 1:1 on 11900k yet, because I tweaking high speed 1:2 now :)

    I've seen 2933mhz 1:1 from Cstkl1 at OCN, but high speed memory is better performance. Bandwidth is king for RocketLake
     

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