Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Feb 9, 2021.
countgin on 11500 at 200-220 eur near 5600x performance
In theory yes, but until we see the real benchmarks I would not be 100% sure, as you seem to be.
Do you think that Intel would launch after 10c flagship and now 8c flagship (lol, 8c flagship) another dud 8c flagship with some little cores just to fail, again?
I'm pretty sure the architecture and the IPC gains will be enough to make it great at gaming and better multi-core performance too. That plus the new LGA 1700 which will be supported for more than 2 years (apparently as the rumors say) + all the good things: PCIe 5, DDR4+5, etc - all this makes it a much more logical choice of CPU if Intel is you preferred platform.
Again, only die hard intel fools, I mean fans, would buy Skippy Lake now and not wait a little for Alder Lake, which is a much better bet.
if only intel fanboys would buy this,then who would say that both rkl and adl 8c are fails before they are released ?
i wonder what you think about 5800x selling at 450+ eur. success ?
or 10900f selling for the same price as 5600x ? only a fanboy wouldn't buy the sixcore in that situation.
This would be good to get AMD off their high price horse right now. Let's see.
Won't happen but one can dream
Something tells me that the packaging is the only thing that sets it apart from the previous gen
* - 2 cores
Wake me when it actually ships and is tested by a wide variety of people... ZZZZ-zzzz-zz-zzz...People who play games aren't all idiots, even if Intel thinks they are.
I dunno... I somewhat always disliked geekbench (and other benchmark suits) to compare architectures. I prefer single application benchmarks instead of these suits of all kinds of things to spew out a single weighted number...
It's fine for seeing how much your oc gained you, but comparing generations and architectures... I don't see it as representative of the actual HW
I really don't believe these benches, I'm going to wait for official reviews by legit places like hardware unboxed, guru3d and pcgaming.de.
Games are 99.9% GPU dependent, most processors these days can feed the GPU very well, so in games its barely going to be 2-3% faster(maybe) due to the extreme overclock.
But Intel needs to reduce prices across the board, they can't be freaking selling max 8 core processor in 2021 for $500 or so, that is just insulting. Who cares about 1-3% better single threaded performance, when you only get 8 cores vs 12 or 16 from AMD for similar prices.
what I'd like to know how does all these new cpu's stack up to my current 10980xe I really only want to use intel but don't want to go to mainstream platform and lose core count really if I won't see a performance boost strictly for gaming so I guess I should wait for intel to have DDR5 and pci ex 5.0 for a big upgrade from x299 ?
Intel doesn't need to do anything. They're selling all their stock the moment it hits the retail channel. All they need to do is to have stock. I don't know where this expectation of lower prices is coming from, but even if Intel do launch at lower MSRP, market demand will push the price right back up again. I suppose this would give them a PR edge though. They could always lament how they tried so hard but the scalpers/retailers/bad men in trench coats are keeping the good guys down. Or something.
Wrong. You need a Z590 board in order to OC the cpu. A cheap B560 board paired with an 11th gen. Rocket Lake cpu will not only give you native support of 3200MHz RAM along with PCIe 4 but it will also allow you to OC your memory. Albeit peeps who purchase an unlocked cpu will want a Z590 board so that they can OC their cpu. Where Rocket Lake will shine is the fact it will be the best option for budget to mid range gaming builds. Look for the i5 11400F to sell like hot cakes. The current 10th gen. Comet Lake i5 10400F is retailing for $150 USD atm.
Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200
Core i5-10400 and Core i5-10400F Processor Review: Do You Still Like Ryzen 5 3600?
https://www.msi.com/Landing/intel-z590-b560-h510-motherboard <--- MSI B560's
https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/Intel-Rocket-Lake-Z590-H570-B560-series/ <--- Asus
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/Intel-B560 <-- Gigabyte
https://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp <--- Asrock
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007627 601360973 <--- B560's starting to show up on Newegg.
Ask yourself, according to Intel, by claiming a 35% IPC increase compared to its predecessors, why do they go back to 8c? Imagine the performance gain with new IPC on 10, 12, 14.....cores. Let´s wait for "real" reviews...
are you sure this is true ?
last time I checked their own 8 core 5800x sells for more than both 3900x and 10850K.
5900x 12c is more expensive than 16 core threadrippers used to be,and twice the price of 10700K.
meanwhile 10900f sells for 350 eur,just like 5600x. 6/12 vs 10/20 for the same price. Only an idiot would pick a 10 core in that situation,right ? 6 cores are more futureproof.
I literally don't remeber the last time amd was so much more expensive than intel than right now as you were typing this.
Because due to 14nm they can't meaningfully compete in well-threaded high-core count scenarios against 7nm --> i.e. poor perf/Watt,
which gets perfectly addressed by moving to 3nm
ARE U KIDDIN ME... WOW!!
God damn nice price for Intel, any idea what is all core max freq for that 10900F?
4.5 GHz , 4.6 with vel. boost
Yawn, ill just wait the for 6700x anyways. That will be a worthy upgrade over my 2700x.
Nothing intel brings out even tickles a fancy. Still having locked cpus, cpus with and without IGP in the same series. Cpus without a igpu but locked. Intel can piss off big time.
4.6 allcore without power limits
yeah I never thought I'd be remotely interested in skylake in 2021,but the way prices have been droping is just shocking.though if you ask me,it's probably what they should have been from 10th gen launch.It is a 14nm skylake cpu after all,only interesting if it's heavily discounted.