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Intel combines Optane memory and Intel QLC 3D NAND storage

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    nizzen Master Guru

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    This is Intel 660p with integrated optane :)
    If prized right, it could be a winnercombo for most of us :)
     
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    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    Is it really going to be better than a NAND only SSD (of course with the regular DDR buffer)? Maybe if the controller is really smart, meaning it writes/reads from the NAND and Optane in parallel.
     
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    Yet it is slower than the Samsung Pro based SSDs, even slower than more conventional the Evos.
    QLC is a joke compared with MLC, not to mention the low TBW on QLC based SSDs.
    If you want to go low budget, I don't recommend anything above TLC.
     

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    Anything nand is a joke compared to Optane 900p/905p, if you don't look at the prize ;)

    The point for 660p qlc and this Optane H10 ssd is cheap and fast storage. Typical fast read for most used games/programs.

    If you want more expensive, you can buy more expensive ssd's, but not necessary very much faster for daily use that matter do most people.

    For me that uses Intel Optane 900p for OS and programs, 660p 2tb qlc ssd is perfect for ssd storage. Way better than normal HDD's for my use. HDD is an joke compare to even QLC ssd's. This is my opinion.
     
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    QLC nope.
     
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    From what I understand this requires Intel RST drivers to work. (Rapid Storage Technology)
    edit : version 17.2 or above apparently.
    It also seems to have other requirements, like a 300-series chipset, and an 8th Gen Intel CPU or higher. (Anandtech have some info).

    I really don't see the point of this over a standard SSD, unless its to use up the huge stock of Optane chips they have....
     
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    Exactly my though.
    This tech is too expensive to be QLC, it's too soon for that.
    My SSD is MLC and I know I'll get a ridiculous life out of it (if nothing wrong goes with it), so I'd get TLC for denser and cheaper units.
    But QLC? No, not before they improve the numbers a bit. I'll be sure to check what tech is in the next SSD I buy.
     
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    My daughters cheap HP desktop has 32GB optane and then a 1TB HDD and while the optane is working it seems snappier than my 970 Pro MLC m.2 drive. Of course it then runs out of steam and slows down.

    So I can see the potential of having a stick with optane and SSD NAND so that drop-off is not as steep.

    I'd like to see the tests and price before writing it off so soon.
     

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    With these platforms, everyday users will be able to:
    • Launch documents up to 2 times faster while multitasking.
    • Launch games 60% faster while multitasking.
    • Open media files up to 90% faster while multitasking.
    Do they read at least once what they write in this PR crap?
    Seriously, there's no everyday user needing to do "faster" this stuff while multitasking...
     
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    And so the merging of memory and storage begins.....
     

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