Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 11, 2022.
I will just wait until the reviews are posted.
I will ignore everything else.
I'm not even sure it's about drivers here. Might just be hardware delays because of lockdowns in CN.
Anyway, why should they not have issues? Everybody building hardware has them, I'd have been surprised if Intel's launch of a whole new product line would go without any troubles.
Does anyone know how the drivers are "really" doing in the laptop released versions?
Intel supposed to launch those cards in 2020, then moves twice date in 2021, then early 2022, summer 2022 now talking about end 2022. Well doubt we will see them until 2023!
Seriously Intel, just release it for a lower-than- desired price and take your losses. If they released it a half year ago, miners would've bought them all up anyway. The market is already starting to stabilize and we're seeing GPUs creeping back to MSRP. By September, Intel will have mostly missed out on the mining market. That would have been the one thing that really made this product sell well.
Tell reviewers which games are known to not be optimized, and perhaps people will be a little more forgiving. Obviously, don't tell reviews what to review because that's just asking for more hate.
Take note from CDPR: When a product gets repeatedly delayed and still under-delivers on release day, it looks real bad. Intel could wait another whole year and these products will still under-deliver, even ignoring the next gen stuff from Nvidia and AMD. That's not a shot at Intel, it's just insanely hard to optimize everything.
Though as I always point out, AMD's open-source drivers have little to no application-specific optimizations and yet they perform so well that each of their GPUs are practically bumped up a whole performance tier. So if AMD can pull that off, the only thing that would be stopping Intel from doing the same is either bad developer practices or the GPU architecture is fundamentally flawed. This is a pretty new architecture, so Intel ought to have had a pretty clean slate to work with. If they're already heavily dependent upon micro-optimizations, they're going to have a difficult future.
I actually believe that they are doing this already. There are numerous serious NUC BIOS bugs plaguing the NUC support forum and Intel seems to be pretty much ignoring everyone. It looks like they are completely fixated on other projects.
The only 2 devices I have to deal with that use Xe integrated as their only graphics are glitchy as hell. My niece has an 11th gen 2 in 1 with Xe and when you witch from laptop to tablet orientation it has all kinds of terrible graphical glitches like videos rolling from right to left or the top of the screen being duplicated over and over all the way down the screen.
I have a mini-PC with Xe and most emulators I try to go full screen in crash instantly. This PC is based on a tablet screen so I suspect its a similar bug.
R.I.P. i guess.
All I have to say is look who's running this poop show. I'm sure AMD's management is spinning in their chairs laughing at how well the trojan horse is working.
They are going to have to sell these at cost as they are going to be competing with the low end from this next gen from AMD and Nvidia. This delay is going to hurt.
so what your saying is that the drivers are hot garbage.
RIP the dream of affordable video cards. The leather jacket is laughing its equivalent of an ass off right now.
Don't hold your breath.
we'll have crazy good deals by year's end, like in 2018
don't skimp on vram, your next reasonably priced GPU could be in 2030
So they are delayed so they can put data mining into their drivers... no thanks... no even interested in Intel GPUs.
Well, this is very disappointing, and I'll just leave it at that.
The more time goes by, the more is looks like Larrabee 2.0.....
Intel is still living from its past.. They had good years from Core 2 to second Ryzen coming. They lost SSD marked and managed to remove most of third party chips from mainboards and forced people upgrade boards very often.. in last years they lived from old code base, which were made around intel cpucs.
LMFAO ole Raja Koduri still at it i see. Dude is a fraud, card will be a dud by the time it comes out, watch
Problem is that they bought into Raja's BS. Dude promised for years and years to take out Nvidia and never did, when his cards did come out, they got whipped cause they were so late. he basically destroyed ATi.
They should have paid whatever it would take to get one of Nvidia's best people if they were serious. Now its gonna cost them.