Intel Arc Alchemist A770M/A730M benchmarks fvs RTX 3060 and 3050 Ti are available

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    "A730M laptops have been launched to Chinese gamers; A770M is not yet accessible"

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    Somehow I doubt these numbers can be reproduced in real world environments by the average joe.
    As always, very curious to see @Hilbert Hagedoorn / guru3D's review.
     
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    My biggest concern over these Intel GPU's are its drivers... Historically they were horrible, even compared to AMD. It's like, sure the fps seems fine, but is it stable? No visual glitches, hangs, lockups, all the good ol stuff that bad drivers can cause? So Yeah.. Kind of have to wait for proper reviews. BTW, any chance we will see a review on this? Or Intel is still being a douche and not sending samples to Europe?
     

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    Either A770M is severely power limited or this is another classic Raja design. Very efficient at low power and then hitting hard bottlenecks once you scale it up.
     
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    In my experience, Intel has a tendency to prematurely drop support entirely only for their Windows drivers. On other OSes, Intel's drivers have better stability, better performance, and more features. Even Haswell still sees updates once in a while for their open-source drivers, and Macs are pretty solid.

    So, as long as you're not using Windows, Intel is a decent option. I personally will not be recommending Intel to any Windows gamers for at least another 2 years, and I assume Intel isn't going to bother with Mac drivers. But if you use an open-source OS, go for it - should offer great performance and stability.
     
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    What's the price? What's the power consumption? How noisy is it? These are all important things for me. Driver stability as well, at least AMD are far better than they used to be...
     
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    Well, that's kind of the problem, isn't it? They are marketed as gaming cards, which... kind of implies windows. Linux is getting better, but I don't think most of us are going for it, unless Microsoft does what Microsoft does best and really screws something up. Again. Or actually messes things up that no workaround solves or mitigate it.
    I'm hoping for the best, really, they have the money to be better at this, but it will take some time. Like working closer with game studios, releasing updated drivers for major launches, optimizing it for at least the "popular" games. And, if the other article is indeed correct, the current state at least in China of their performance on AMD's platform will also need to improve. This is also really weird, like, launching it first in China, like.... why? Closer to TSMC, sure, but is the performance that bad? Or yields, I don't know. They are also getting kind of late to the party, prices and numbers of Nvidia and AMD cards are getting better. How many of these cards are they going to be able to sell this late?

    Kind of a bummer really. We could use a better third alternative right now. But there's just way too many question marks right now
     
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    Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess my point is there's a silver lining for those who aren't Windows users. There's no doubt Intel has royally screwed up their attempts at this GPU launch.

    My only speculation with China's market is that (to my understanding) there is a much smaller list of games Intel has to optimize for, and much of them likely don't demand super high frame rates.
     
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    I think they mentioned internet cafes were being targeted, so yeah, makes sense... Bummed, but not surprised. Although I guess really soon someone's going to get one through grey market channels and benchmark it in the west.

    I guess it's kind of expected, whenever you buy the 1st gen of anything, you're pretty much paying to be a guinea pig when you're on the "bleeding edge" technology.
     

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