Intel Announces their Rocket Lake-S Desktop CPUs

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Intel is introducing its eleventh-generation Core processors for desktops, aka  Rocket Lake-S. The new CPUs have a new architecture for the first time since Skylake in 2015, which means they have to ...

    Intel Announces their Rocket Lake-S Desktop CPUs
     
  2. asturur

    asturur Maha Guru

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    omg so many cpus, there is one each 5 to 20 eur.
     
  3. Undying

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    Is this a first time in a decade that intel is undercuting amd prices? Cheaper probably means they are slower but there are some decent options especially in lower end.

    It will be interesting how amd will respond. Zen3+? Reducing the prices? Or finally introducing the 5700x and 5600 non x.
     
  4. Aura89

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    8 cores for $550?


    Yeah i get there are cheaper ones but...wow
     

  5. terror_adagio

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    I like the pricing of the i5/i7. The 11900k is what it is. I am really curious to see how binned it is as in games it could still come close to or beating the 5900x.

    I know everyone is going to probably crap on Intel here, but I think the i5/i7 CPUs with their new better onboard GPU is going to have a significant place.

    I think AMD is going to have to lower prices. This is good for everyone. Just goes to show you want both of these guys around competing.
     
  6. Glottiz

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    They've been undercutting AMD with pricing and stock levels for a while now. Check prices for 10400F, 10700F, 10700KF, 10850K. All great, very well priced gaming CPUs for different budget levels. Internet nerds were too obsessed with AMD to notice. So now AMD is the expensive one as ironic as it may be.
     
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  7. terror_adagio

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    Its true.

    Where I am the 5900x is $50 more than the 11900k. I would like the i9 to be at least $50 cheaper. I do think the i9 will be pretty binned and beat the 5800x/5900x in quite a few games, and match in others.

    The 5900x/5950x is a unicorn though, hardly available.
     
  8. pato

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    The question is, can they deliver? I'm waiting for my 5900X since the beginning of December 2020, with slight hopes of getting it end of March.
    The 5800X is on stock though, but I want the just slightly more expensive 5900X (at least with the crazy pricing at the moment).
     
  9. asturur

    asturur Maha Guru

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    11700 and 11600k seems very interesting price wise.
    My understanding is that between i9 and i7 the only difference with this generation is the thermal short turbo.
     
  10. Undying

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    i9 have more pcie lanes.
     

  11. fredgml7

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    Well done Intel.
    Your turn AMD.
     
  12. ruiner13

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    Ha ha ha. “115W”. At idle maybe. Do they have a core dedicated to specter/meltdown mitigation?
     
  13. GamerNerves

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    For builders of new systems this release is okay, but honestly this is slightly disappointing for upgraders like me. Intel motherboards are still a notch more expensive than AMD ones, so overall cost for i5-11600K gets too close to R5 5600X or might even exceed it if you are fine with a cheap AM4 board. It is recommendable to combine i5-11600K or more consuming models only with boards that have decent VRM like for example MSI B560M Mortar likely has.
    I wished Intel would offer the more complete package at affordable price point, but it seems you still have to pay premium for the iGPU while you still get much worse power consumption compared to R5 5600X. I am no more interested in Rocket Lake without hefty discount and for budget builders it is still hard to recommend Rocket Lake over Comet Lake, but I recommend to get a B560 motherboard with Comet Lake for memory overclocking. The new motherboards are actually the best thing here with their beefier VRMs and other good stuff.
    Personally I will wait for the possible R5 5600 or even Zen3+.

    Conclusion: Intel missed it's chance.
     
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  14. terror_adagio

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    Still can't remember hearing about this being exploited yet on either Intel or AMD. And didn't 10th Gen do in silicon mitigation without a perf hit? Therefore, 11th Gen probably has the same.
     
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    The 11700K and the 11600k are the only interesting CPUs in the entire line up and cheaper than the ones from AMD, like others have already said.

    They could be interesting for people needing a new system right now but for others is preferable to wait for the real next gen CPU from Intel and from AMD.
     

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    I don't see why AMD would respond to this launch other than by price matching, or introducing some lower specced SKUs. I certainly can't imagine them doing anything at the top end. 5900X and 5950X are not gaming parts (irrespective of what marketing would like people to think), and if leaks and early benchmarks are to be believed, with the exception of some limited gaming applications, they still blow RL out of the water in everything else. I suspect they might release higher specced XT parts around the time Alder Lake ships to tide people over until Zen4/AM5 launches in 2022, though I am still at a loss why they would bother investing any more time and effort into a dead end platform.
     
  17. JOHN30011887

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    Meh, i'll hold out for 12th gen, im the minority (i know) with not liking the high TDP in cpu's and nvidia gpu's 30 series

    So guess i'll stick to my 8700k and RTX2080 for another year at least, there still doing a good job but i have that itch to upgrade, thank god for some great 4tb nvme ssd's to focus on
     
  18. terror_adagio

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    I am curious about this Intel AI Boost stuff they are saying is basically going to offset the loss of the cores/threads in certain multithread applications like Vegas Video and Handbrake. I use these all the time and the numbers they are showing are pretty significant.
     
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    I looked at the prices in a UK store and they seem quite expensive compared to the the 10th generation stuff, even assuming the 19% IPC that Anand failed to see much evidence of. I'd get a 10600k if I was shopping for Intel right now.
     
  20. BReal85

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    Some:
    "Intel will definitely be cheaper than the ridiculously expensive Zen3. "

    Intel:
    "11900K with 8 cores for $540."

    AMD:
    $550 5900X with 12 cores and probably lower power consumption: "Hold my beer!"

    I don't see why AMD should lower prices. Their 5900X with 1,5 more cores, better single thread performance and overwhelmingly better multi thread perf., and even less power consumption (with 1,5 more cores) is only $12 more expensive than the 11900K.
     

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