Intel and Microsoft release final Spectre Patches up to and including Sandy Bridge

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    glad they decided to do sandy and ivy too.
     
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    386SX Maha Guru

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    I am glad for anybody with a system this old so he/she may use it to protect them.

    Sadly, I own an Intel Desktop Board (X79) which is EOL since I think 2014, so Intel won't do a thing about it. AMITOOL or AWARDTOOL do not help, because my BIOS is in *.bio format and specific for Intel, in addition compressed, encrypted and signed, so no chance in getting this fix.

    I have to make sure the bad boys stay out of my network.

    But as I said before: I am happy for EVERY user who may have a benefit from this.
     
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    Reading several posts I have seen that Intel plans to update microcodes of its processors dating to 2007.

    I have to say that I'm really happy to see this, especially in these times where PC hardware are way to expensive to me even consider an upgrade!

    Long live to my 875k at 4.0! Running strong and snappy!

    I only hope the performance drop dont be huge and stays in the single digit area.

    I just wonder if Intel have any plans on realeasing any BIOS updates to his older motherboards or older plataforms users must rely only on MS Updates alone...

    Best regards,
    Will.
     
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    Then you will be happy to know that you will not be needed to modify BIOS for this update to work. Windows will upload updated microcode at the start.
    As for Intel BIOS probably you can get an expertise on BIOS modding here https://www.win-raid.com/f16-BIOS-Modding-Guides-and-Problems.html

    Btw, DX models of CPUs were much cooler than SX ones back then.
     
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    This way (MS update) is much more safer and easier.
     
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    Yeah, and it makes total sense, since messing with older BIOS can have a huge risk of breaking something that has been working perfectly for almost a decade.

    I dont feel hurry in get this update, but when it gets to my PC I only hope it works flawlessly.

    On a side note: The update has arrived to my work notebook and I have the feeling that the performance hit on U SKU's is far more notable. But its understandable since this SKU's are meant for energy effciency.
     
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    Asrock updated some Bioses also today. Just updated my X99 OC Formula and it now passes Inspectre.
     
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    Uhm... not sure what's about to happen, but I haven't gotten an update, win10 1607, Haswell-E... I guess announcing they're planning to just makes them offer those updates next patch tuesday, in about a month from now?

    (Just saying, would be 3 months AFTER Intel planned to have all the fixes ready, still not even a blink from Asus for my Rampage5Extreme mainboard... even better, I just found they took it out of their product line... gj Asus you wankas o_O)
     
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    First wave of MS+Intel update was not pushed through WU. Users should manually download it from Windows Update Catalog. So the update for the rest of CPUs will need your attention too (most probably).
     
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    Well thanks, they are not really delivering it then, they are just hosting...
     
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    Nothing for my I7 960 :(
     
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    Out of curiosity, I checked inspectre on my old Q6600 system, can confirm, it's vulnerable to Spectre and Meltdown (although meltdown has the os protection update).

    I wonder if I should pull my old Pentium 4 system out of storage and check that :D?
     
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    I wonder how the performance drop is going to be now that the patches including the microcode updates are out. Is there any updated info on this already?
     
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    can any one tell me about the performance impact. i run a 4770k @4.3ghz
     
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    After I read this article I was thinking that it meant that KB4090007 had been updated to include the Sandybridge microcodes, but no, it's not available yet from Microsoft with the Sandybridge microcodes, Coffee Lake down to Skylake (being the oldest) are the only ones currently released:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4090007/intel-microcode-updates

    This means I can't patch my old Sandybridge laptop quite yet, will need to wait for KB4090007 to be updated with the Sandybridge microcodes.
     
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    Good read (especially towards the end, real world performance):
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/325...spectre-patches-drag-down-older-hardware.html

    To put it in perspective. My I7 2600k at 4800mhz with 28percent performance penalty equals a whopping 1344mhz frequency drop. meaning 3450mhz (instead of 4800mhz)!!!

    So yeah i've disabled this nonsense.

    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
    "FeatureSettingsOverrideMask"=dword:00000003
    "FeatureSettingsOverride"=dword:00000003
    
     
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    Yes, the article confuses what Intel have released and what has so far been added to Microsoft's KB4090007 update. (I guess in a later update to KB4090007 all the microcode updates from Intel will be added.)
     
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