Intel 7nm processors likely carry codename Meteor lake

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Thought when they were moving away from the Sky-lake architecture it won't be named "*-Lake" any more?
     
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    And by the time they release the 7nm, AMD will be at 5nm already and going for the 3nm process. :)
     
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    Ice Lake, already on the market from 2019. Next is Tigerlake, this summer. I don't know where you read that...
     
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    AMD will use 7nm for Zen 3, that will launch end of this year or start of next year, so 2021. In 2022 Zen 4 on 5nm will launch. In 2022, Intel should also have a 7nm product. Its not all about process, but it does bring a significant benefit in terms of efficiency.
     
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    The numbers are pretty meaningless when the feature sizes are nearly identical.

    The industry really needs to move away from those numbers - it's extremely misleading.

    For example the Gate Pitch of 7nm is actually 54nm. Intel's 10nm process in some ways is more dense than TSMC's 7nm process.
     
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    So why they use it? Is that the smallest process that's in there?

    It's like producing a car with 500hp, but calling it Ford Mustang 700HP
     
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    Basically just marketing.

    The standard for the name has changed throughout the years but since finfet it effectively means nothing outside of marketing. You'd have to look at the individual feature sizes to see how the nodes actually stack up and sometimes that isn't even an indicator of how "good" a node is.
     
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    I dont understand the Marketing of Intel... why not FourteenLake?!?!?!? Will be perfect!
     
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    Coming in hot? :rolleyes:
     
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    crashing like a meteor?

    imagine all the memes...
     
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    Maybe it's from their profit and performance ... and intel's ego / image crashing down since Ryzen launched (okay, I know it isn't nearly that bad, and the security patches aren't ALL obviously slowing things down, but for the sake of satire I had to print that up).
    I still say it should have been called Lava Lake.
     

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    It's not all about process but it will be at some point when you can make something on the new process the competitor can't. Whoever can first get to densities that allow APU's to have 8-cores, 32+GB HBM2 and 2080 ti level GPU on die without needing exhotic cooling will have the first real gaming APU's. Whoever gets there first will take the market by storm. Of course process is a huge part but making in house HBM to keep costs low and also 3d stacking will come into play. It's not far off since the next gen console chips are already pretty close to this performance.
     
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    This makes no sense. If Intel can't keep up with their fabs, they would just buy the chips from any foundry that can make them in spec and with the desired litography, just like AMD is doing right now. Very unlikely that they will get into a point of "can't do what competition is doing", unless they really want to, like they're doing right now, probably because it still makes sense financially.

    This is also unlikely, since at the time when you get an APU close to 2080Ti level, it'll mean that you can have at least 3x that performance in a traditional-sized card, so games would be developed with the latter performance in mind, not the former. Bear in mind that consoles, while much slower than top PCs, also take many shortcuts to squeeze performance out of the last ounce of their capabilities.
     
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    hehe funny but totally wrong right now, considering amd is a hot new thing and intel is 14nm dinosaur for last what ? 5-6 years? If anyone is dinosaur its intel ;P
     
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    There is no point for someone to upgrade before 2021 according to that table. Time to save some serious money this year.
     
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