If you have a subwoofer, step inside...

Discussion in 'Soundcards, Speakers HiFI & File formats' started by N0sferatU, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. N0sferatU

    N0sferatU Ancient Guru

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    Hmm, I'm interested.
    What kit are you running?

    I used to stick a huge wooden breadboard under my old sub, havent thought about doing it with my new one.
     
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    N0sferatU Ancient Guru

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    I'm using the Auralex Gramma...it's a freaking godsend right now I'm loving it.

    It's on my old sub right now which is an Infinity PS-10.

    I'm waiting for my new sub to come which will be a monster...Outlaw LFM-1 EX.

    http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfmEX.html
     
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    your sub looks good on paper!

    I'm not sure if they ship to UK. I bought mine off Amazon.com
     
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    Its a great sub, but the room it has to drive is awful, the walls are wood.
    I have big resonance at 40Hz ish and sod all below 30Hz so it doesnt sound at it best.

    However, I have just put a very solid chunk of wood under the sub and the bass has changed dramatically, but the opposite of what I exected lol.
    I expected a cleaner punch but the bass is about 1/3 as strong and when boosted up, its still a bit flat and gets boomy.
    Deep bass doesnt seem to be attenuated, it feels more prominent.
    This has confused me, I'm going to study it for a bit.
     
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    Speaker and Sub isolation is not such a new concept and there are many products of various design on the market.
    @Mufflore, have a look at this as it might put you on the right track to get rid of those resonances. REQ
     
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    Thanks :)
    I've tried many different types of isolation before on everything up to turntables.
    I've used this very same large breadboard before with a REL Strata II sub and it worked very well, thats why I'm confused.

    I have done a plot on REQ before and posted it, you're right I should do another.
    Why that didnt occur to me...
     
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    Some use that Behringer Feedback destroyer for such tasks also. Have a look here -> Link
     
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    I've been trying to find the name of that for months, thankyou loads!
     

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    Robscix,
    Behringer have a newer version of the Feedback Destroyer Pro DSP1124, called the Feedback Destroyer Pro FBQ2496 for only £15 more, cost £110.
    http://www.gak.co.uk/en/behringer-fbq2496-feedback-destroyer/1156

    qualities:
    faster response
    20 filters per channel vs 12
    96KHz vs 46KHz sample rate

    Have you heard anything about this model?
     
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    There are various models out there but I have not used them personally. There are various types of sub and speaker processors on the market that might help with tuning your sub to your room.
     
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    out with the old and the new one goes on the Gramma.

    Tank steps onto the plate...makes my 10" sub look like a midget haha

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    I'm in the precedings of buying a new speaker system for my room. I told the guy at the HiFi place what I was after, an accurate sounding, not boomy subwoofer which will be mainly used for music and he recommended the REL T5.

    Has anyone here heard of REL? They seem pretty expensive but are they a good brand to invest in? Its for a small room so I would think an 8" closed box might be enough, but im not sure if I should get a 10" since closed boxes have a lesser output than vented ones.
     
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    for the cheaper price I'd stick with the Outlaw LFM-1 EX (what I pictured above). It'll dig deeper and hit harder than that T5.

    REL is good if you go to their higher end products.

    Otherwise look at the Outlaw I listed. Also HSU, SVS are good options as well. I see you're in Austrailia. I'd check to see how shipping is to those places.

    Here's a review of the LFM-1 Plus (slighter smaller version of my EX and cheaper)
    http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-loudspeakers/subwoofers/outlaw-audio-lfm-1-plus-subwoofer.html

    Here's a review of brief review of the EX (hard to find reviews for this model)
    http://hometheaterreview.com/outlaw-audio-lfm-1-ex-subwoofer-reviewed/
     

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    If you interested in a sub that has accurate sounding bass for music, and still has plenty of bass for watching movies, check out the Definitive Technology line of sub woofers. Not only are they great to listen to, they aren't an eye sore. I own the SuperCube II by them, and the Powerfield 1500 back in the early 90's . It has exceeded my expectations for a accurate musical sounding sub, in a compact enclosure that can be placed out of sight.

    I have own some of the better models subs from Klipsch, Paradigm, Velodyne, and auditioned various others. DefTech puts out some of the best subs for the money. My opinion of course, because when it comes to sound, everybody is different.

    http://www.definitivetech.com/default.aspx
     
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    Klispsch synergy sub-12.. 5 years old used less than ten times..
     
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    I've got a sub...
    Oh wait, you mean home theater set ups.
     
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    ^ The last 2 posts must be the random comment section lol.

    Well op,
    thanks for your post because using just a breadboard under my sub has worked wonders.

    It took a few days to get used to the very different bass response but now I find myself listening to more of my collection.
    While I have lost some punch due to the loss of room resonances, there is detail deeper in the bass lines (of some songs) than I was previously unaware of!
    My system feels more complete now (ie there are less bass niggles).
    The extra resonance I had before wasnt realistic, this is much more manageable!

    I'm partway through buliding some new speakers that have their own platforms and respond down to at least 40Hz, so I dont know if I need better isolation for the sub just now.
    I'll revisit this thread after the new speakies are built :)
     
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    thanks never knew these things existed. Will try with my 10" velodyne.
     

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