I never expected this performane on a 8800

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by .Rain, Jun 2, 2007.

  1. MacWun77

    MacWun77 Banned

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    There will be a reason for it. I am thinking possibly sound card related or maybe something else, You might have to mess around with things until you find the issue. Try disabling hardware mixing etc.

    I hadn't tried Far Cry on Vista until a couple of days ago, and I saw OK ish performance, but definately not that bad. #00FPS in quiet areas and lowest was about 80FPS. That was with FSAAx8 and 8XAF (enabled in game) @ 1280x1024

    Try running a 3d mark at default settings, that might let you know if it is just Far Cry or something more system-wide
     
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    Agreed. Same as CnQ turn it off if you are OC'in, also get rid of thermal throttling and spread spectrums (should be disabled) they can all cause performance drops, and sometimes stability issues, though I know less about Conroes/Intel.
     
  3. aircool

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    I cant cause stability issues unless (the keyword) your upping the voltage.
     
  4. alanm

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    Download 3dmark 06 and run it, lets see what you get.
     

  5. GhostXL

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    Try 158.45 driver set. Very solid IMO.
     
  6. KENNYB

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    Yup, some of us got stuck with lemons. The only proposed cure for my E6600 is to lap the bastard. A friend's E6600 idles 8C lower than mine. Same waterblock, same install method, different temps.
     
  7. (IRE)Wolfman

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    You need to disable speedstep

    by going to the bios

    turn of all but virtualization and what ever is before it

    also turn off the option CPU Thermal Control and C1E Enhanced Halt State,

    make sure the 2nd core is on too
     
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    are u sure about that cpuz thing.. casue i have all that speedstep stuff disabled and win xp it reads a constant multi of of 12 x 266 which gives me 3.2 but in vista it drops to 6 but when i launch a game or run a bench it shoots up to 3.2 at 12... i think its a vista thing.. and nothing to do with speedstep and what not
     
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    Try to patched those games for new version first that would help you a lot.
     
  10. (IRE)Wolfman

    (IRE)Wolfman Ancient Guru

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    thats speedstep

    hpet is another option to disable

    intel has a diff bios dont know what your options are

    i had one or 2 things left enabled like hpet(i think its called that), CPU Thermal Control and C1E Enhanced Halt State. it caused the multi to drop and the volts.
    going from 3.6 to 2.4 in cpu-z, in vista too
     

  11. SniperDaws

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    Rain why you running your games @1024x768? What monitor do you have?
     
  12. .Rain

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    Thanks for all the replies, but I'm still having some issues here.
    First off, speedstep was disabled and now the CPU is almost always at 1600mhz at 1.152v. sometimes it jumps to 2400mhz (so says cpuz) but in ntune the voltage reads 1.175 and the core is at 2400.699mhz.(always ie it never changes) Is this a issue with CPUZ?
    Also I have installed SC double agent, and the fps are not that great. I have a gateway lcd monitor @ 10x7. Did a benchmark in FEAR and got 130 fps, which was allright.
     
  13. Dil-Tech

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    Am I the only one thinking perhaps his card is running in PCI-E 1x mode instead of 16x?

    Seen it happen countless times now.

    Update your chipset drivers, see if that fixes the issue.
     
  14. (IRE)Wolfman

    (IRE)Wolfman Ancient Guru

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    No its still enabled

    i had that same problem with cpuz

    go to you bios, reset it to the saved settings

    clear cmos, now just set you cpu timings and ram

    dont enable anything else, then see if cpuz is doing the same
    if it isnt then it one of your settings in your bios, enable what yu think you need then one by ne until you find the one that is speedstepin you

    to disable speedstep the right way you need to disable speedstep and all other setting, you dont need most of those enaled anyhow

    the thing is once you play games speedstep is disabled anyway
     
  15. Ankit kukreti

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    In 1024 x 768 you can't see the real power of 8800GTX but anyways it could be software problem. Try different drivers and do clean install/uninstall. Win XP is more reliable I think.
     

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    That's not quite how a bottleneck works.

    The CPU only bottlenecks the GPU when the game is sufficiently CPU dependant that no matter how much better your GFX card is, there won't be much of a difference in FPS.

    A good example of this is 3dMark03 VS 3dMark05. In 03, which is far less CPU bound, score does not increase particularly much when the CPU is overclocked. In contrast, score in 05 increases by a much more significant percentage through CPU OC.

    F.E.A.R is not known to be particularly CPU bound, and to my knowlege, GTA:SA isn't either. A C2D at 2.4 (roughly equiv to a Toledo core at around2.8-3.0) is not going to be limiting a G80 in these 2 games to a point where FPS are noticeably low and choppy (sub 30 FPS).

    So you can rule out your CPU as the culprit. It is not as if OC'ing the CPU to 3GHZ is suddenly going to multiply your GFX cards' bandwidth ten fold - this is not how it works. It sounds like driver issues but not necessarily GFX drivers.

    Also, in 1024x768, you shouldn't be getting a low FPS at all. Trying some comparisons between no AA and 16XAA - if the FPS DROPS, then you've got a problem with your drivers. If the FPS STAYS THE SAME (with 1-2 FPS) then you know it's not the card, but something else, such as the intel chipset driver not being installed (my friend's brother did this once.)

    As far as that, though, I don't think I can help you. Vista could also very much be the culprit. Post some 03/05/06 numbers.
     
  17. jcarlin123

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    Perhaps the problem isn't that the fps are too low, but they are in fact too high (as you would expect on .rain's setup at 1024x768). If the fps are in fact too high then you would get visual tearing. This would also explain why some of the newer games (more demanding games) such as stalker appear to run smoother. Perhaps you could try going into nvidia control panel and turn ON Vsync? Or you could run fraps in-game to monitor the fps. I had a similar problem with my old 7800GS+, so give it a try ;)
     
  18. .Rain

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    I have downloaded FRAPS and GTA San Andreas at max settings runs at around 100fps. In really crowded areas as low as 70. R6Vegas is currently the game with the lowest FPS, almost never hits over 100, only runs at 30-40 fps at max settings. Screen res @ 10x7. Are these normal benchmarks for these games for the 8800gtx?
    I will try some of the steps some of you posted. Thanks
     
  19. SniperDaws

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    Rain ffs beat your monitor witha huge stick then throw it in the bin, you have a great system and its being sh*t on by that god awful low spec monitor.

    Buy at least a 19" widescreen.
     
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    uh...getting to 3.6 is not always possible, even then, it may not even be stable. realistically though, 3GHz is no problem.
     

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