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Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by Rumpus01, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Rumpus01

    Rumpus01 Ancient Guru

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    So i ****ed up... i've been having issues with my system lately pointing to the power supply. Today i took my corsair HX 1000W out but left in the modular cables. I took my 750W thermaltake and plugged those modular cables into that PSU. I turn the computer on and hear a pop from the front of the case and it turns off and i smell things burning.
    So then I set it all up where it's all thermaltake cables and the system gives a disk boot error. I also noticed my DVD drive doesn't work. My secondary hard drive is not recognized on the machine either under boot order. I have tried different SATA cables on the drives but no dice. Did i seriously **** over both my hard drives and my DVD drive? After the pop, i realized my pump had never come on either during that boot. This leads me to believe that all the parts that were hooked up to the thermaltake PSU with the modular HX 100W cables are ****ed, which is the 2 hard drives, the DVD drive, and the pump and some fans. The fans and pump work fine now with all thermaltake cables though, so it must be the parts. Any ideas on this? Ways to test, am i able to get data off of these? they have everything. One was storage, other primary. Was not prepared to have them both go at once. I mean I could be wrong, but I see no other way that all three of my drives no longer work unless i am missing something real big.
     
  2. Vood007

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    My deepest condolences. Try the drives in a different PC but chances are big they are gone forever. And prey nothing else is damaged. And note Thermaltakes PSU protection sucks.

    You may try to find the same drives used at ebay and try to replace the controller boards.
     
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  3. Rumpus01

    Rumpus01 Ancient Guru

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    All other components should be fine because the motherboard and GPU were plugged straight in from the PSU and not modular cables. So technically it could have been much worse. My drives and power supply are both under warranty. I will RMA my corsair PSU first since it started all this. I am going to advance RMA my hard drive so I can get my desktop back up right away. If my hard drive is still under warranty, will they be able to find out it burned out and refuse it? It's a velociraptor so I dont know how that's covered under WDs warranty. I am going to try freezing, SATA to USB adapter, and if all else fails I could try moving the platters to a different enclosure, though sounds like an iffy success done by me and i'm pretty sure that would void the warranty of my drive, which I don't want to do after they send me a new one first through advanced RMA.

    DVD drives are cheap so that's lucky. I only payed $60 for my second hard drive which is 750GB WD. What do you guys think about getting this data recovered by professionals? I'd be willing to pay something decent to get all my media and info back off these drives. This requires taking it apart completely though, and would void the warranty, right?
     
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  4. momomo67890

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    unless you have a clean room moving the platters wont work out :p
     

  5. Rumpus01

    Rumpus01 Ancient Guru

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    Yea won't waste my time failing at that and voiding the warranty. I lost all my save games, music, movies, tv shows, school files. **** that, I better do something to get some stuff back. Do you think WD would be able to tell I fried it basically?
     
  6. dcx_badass

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    I'd try plug them into another PC first, see if you can get your data.
     
  7. G-Man

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    AFAIK, different brand PSU's use different pin layouts on the psu end of the connector and therein would lie your problem (If you hadnt worked that out by now)_. as for the file recovery, last i checked that was very expensive, but perhaps if youre sending the drives back for rma you could ask them to see if they could get the files off for you? - doesnt hurt to ask does it?

    Good Luck
     
  8. shadow70

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    l have done data recovery a few years ago, and that was for a 500GB drive and that cost me around $600 AUD.

    with your one it would cost more to $100AUD or more as they would either have to take to platters out and put it in to another drive or change the board on it, so would be costing alot more.

    also most data recovery people will do a free inspection then tell you how much it would cost.

    All the best with it.
     
  9. philheckler

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    I've had an old sun scsi drive go down in work recently - i got an identical replacement and swapped the pcb on the back of the drive (the job took me like 5mins with a torx screwdriver - it was easy!!) - now back up and running :banana:- just a thought as this could work for you too , you'll need to order an identical make and model of hard drive though to pretty much guarantee compatability..
     
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  10. SpudMuffin

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    I'm guessing you've accidently swapped the rails so where the drives were expecting one voltage (or a ground) you've supplied several volts destroying said drives. Having said that, because this is not a manufacturing fault, the warranty should not cover it. Also, if you open any drive, you'll void the warranty and WD will hit up your credit card for the replacement drive for whatever amount they want.

    Don't be an aresehat, suck it up princess, take it as a learning experience and don't screw over innocent companies because you made a stupid mistake.
     

  11. Extraordinary

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    Sounds more like the board was damaged rather than all the drives

    The board is what recognises the drives, so if it fails to recognise them all, is it not more likely that its the board ?
     
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    Probably, so long as the incorrect voltage/current didn't blow a motor!
     
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    Dont think your gonna blow a motor in a HDD lol

    Incorrect voltage to a HDD would pop / melt a chip on the board first I would imagine
     
  14. Rumpus01

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    I see where you're coming from about the board, but the board was not plugged in with the wrong cables because those big power cables are not modular. The board's power light comes on fine and it recognizes my 6gigs of RAM, but it gives a disk boot error. I'd rather it be my board.... then it would be covered under EVGA warranty and I wouldn't loose my data. But i did hear a popping noise from the front of the case, hence why I think it's the drives. I'm going to try a SATA to USB adapter today to see if they're recognized. If not, I think that will answer the question of whether or not it's the drives or the board.
    Because the drives might be burned out instead of dead, do you think freezing would have any effect on getting data back?
     
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    Freezing them only works when the platter / heads are dying -

    works by the cold contracting the metal so it gets a final chance to read the data


    If it was a chip that popped (Which is most likely the only thing that can pop other the a capacitor) then freezing will do nothing

    If the data is mega important, data recovery firms can get it back for you for a small fortune

    The pop coming from the front of the case, could that not just have been the closest opening of the case that the sound from the board popping came out of ?


    You need to try a known working drive on that board, if it still fails, you have your answer
     

  16. theimported1

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    lonngshot but have you tried clear cmos??
    I have gotten discboot error w/ my evga board and that fixes it everyyyyyyyyyyytime.

    use the button on the board or the button on the back.

    what he needs to do is try the drives in a known working computer to see if they work.
    not a known working drive on the board.


    see I had this issue w/ my evga ftw3. I thought I needed a new hdd. I went and bought one, same error.
    so a known working drive on the board wont verify everything we need to verify.

    so please
    1)reset cmos procedure.
    -power off
    -cord out
    -reset button(hold for 20 sec)
    2)try drives in another pc, or w/adapter like you said.

    3)goodluck let us know.
     
  17. anticupidon

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    i am no data recovery specialist
    but IMHO try to unscrew the hdd's pcb
    some cellphone /computer shops can diagnose a dead hdd pcb and luckily replace the damaged component.
    if not try to get a identical pcb same manufacture date same firmware
     
  18. Rumpus01

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    I tried my roommates perfectly working drive in my computer and it booted without a hitch.
    Okay well here's the dilemma i'm in now... Western digital technically would not cover this under warranty but it could be worth trying. Would they be able to tell in any way a difference between dead and fried? They offer an upgrade option, where I could save $40 on a 450GB version of the Velociraptor. They let you keep the current drive as well.
    That means i can save $40 on a drive that I'll buy anyway if the RMA wouldn't work, so that's probably the smarter decision.
     
  19. Vood007

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    Yes do that and keep the dead drive until you find another dead one or a cheap used on ebay to replace the PCB. If youre lucky the drive itself is sill working and let you recover your stuff using the controller electronics from another drive. Maybe find someone who has the skills to replace it.
     
  20. Rumpus01

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    Alright, ordered a new DVD drive first of all. Going to do the 450GB upgrade and save $40 on it.
    My other drive has all my media on it and it's a WD Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA drive. It goes for $69 on newegg. Are you saying that if I bought this identical drive, then I would most likely be able to switch the drives and get my data off, and then put the new drive back in place or i guess i wouldn't need the new drive at all, just the electronics/enclosure for it.
    Is that probable enough to be worth $70?
     

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