Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by geeunit, Mar 4, 2011.
I hate to add more spending suggestions.....
Do you have crappy airflow in your case or something?
Did you actually read the thread or something?
geesh just lock this thread or something
if a mod wants to lock it im ok with it.
i think this thread has said as much useful info as it is going to say.
as suggestion to get them high temperatures down would be to get an after market HSF for the cpu that blows the air from left to right, not just straight down on the cpu.
he's got the fans on the top blowing out, and he had the aftermarket CPU cooler mounted where it was blowing down too top, but he stuck his stock heatsink back on for some reason
What he needs to do is stick the side of his case back on and get a side fan, having the side of his case off and those two cards that close togeather in cross fire they are getting zero airflow, at least with the side of his case on, and possibly with a side case fan, he would get some airflow out of his chassis
What's wrong with the PCS++ ?
i already stated that i ordered the 200mm fan a few days ago.
that is why i put the stock fan on the 1090T
if i wasnt going to order the 200mm fan i would not have taken the cnps10x extreme off and sold it.
i do not have anything close to crappy airflow.
my temps are exactly what guru3d gets on their benchmarks for the cpu and GPU`s
i just want the NOISE to be lower is why i am getting better cooling
my temps are just fine...its the NOISE i do not like.
You can always drill a small hole and install the fan on the OUTSIDE of the case side panel
That way you can install the big proper heatsink for your CPU so you arn't hitting 65c, the safe zone for 1090t's is 62c so you are already risking damage too it
I've done it for customers in the past for MATX cases where they wanted oversized coolers in undersized cases, I simply drilled small holes for the fan wires to fit through, put a gromit in the holes to prevent wire fraying, and installed the fan on the outside instead of the inside
that is actually a good idea.
i sold the cooler to my son and he gave his cooler (cnps9700nt) to his girlfriend.
so i would have to buy another....i only got $35.00 and its a $90.00 cooler
there is another one i have been looking at and i also been looking at the corsair h70
im not sure...i might sell my 1090T (that has about 25-35 hours of use on it) and sell my mother board and go intel.
i dont know
i really want to be able to overclock and this board cant do it i dont think (even with a good cooler) the 4 VRM`s just cant do it.
btw core-temp says its max temp is 70C and i read that somewhere else too
You might want to wait until AMD releases its Bulldozer line.
Depending on its performance at release, you can either get more bang for the buck (as usual) or see Sandy Bridge prices being lowered; not to mention that Ivy Bridge is also about to come out soon after Bulldozer, I think.
Anyway, for silent coolers, you can't go wrong with Scythe's.
And ThermalTake Jing is a good silent cooler too, but its white-green theme won't suit everyone's taste (and won't fit in your case if you put that 200mm case fan inside), especially on an AMD build (which black & red are all the rage).
Btw, Corsair H60 is about to be released IIRC.
It's like H70 but with a slimmer rad.
FYI I noticed almost zero difference in game performance overclocking my computer, I just overclock to 3.6ghz on stock voltage because I can, not because of any particular need
Anyways, your 1090t should be able to last you a few years, the only reason I got a 1090t was because I do -A LOT- of videogame streaming, where I need the horsepower to be able to encode and send video while gaming, otherwise I would have stuck with my 955, but it was maxing out when gaming + streaming
So unless you -REALLY- need performance, I would just hang onto your 1090t for awhile until you really REALLY need a faster computer, I was thinking of a 2600K myself, but realized it would net me zero gains considering what I do
Also your case will fit a H70, or a H60 or H50 just fine, your exhaust fan in the back is 120mm right? If its a 120mm fan slot, then any of the H series by corsair will fit your case well
EDIT: And the max safe temp is 62c on the CPUmobo thermal sensor, 72c on the CPU core sensor. The CPU core sensor is always 10-13c hotter then the CPU mobo's board sensor, and its the CPU mobo's board sensor you want to pay attention too, but you want neither to go over their max rating
When given 2 CPU temperatures, one will be hotter then the other. The hotter temp is the core, the cooler temp is the CPU mobo's temp
Polite suggestion to OP. Shift Keys are located either side of you keyboard and Caps Lock is usually located in the centre on the left. I didn't take much of anything else away from the thread at the moment, sorry.
good info about the sensors.
so when i start up core temp what sensor is it showing?
i should have never bought the 1090t....i mean my 955BE at 3.6ghz had 90-95% usage when playing bfbc2 and my vcards were about 80% (cpu was bottlenecking it) and when i got the 1090T it dropped down to 75% usage and the gpus went up to 99% each so i didnt gain to much....(i knew i wouldnt) but i had already ordered the cpu from newegg...
i was just going to send it back to newegg and get my money BUT one of my roommates accepted it when the package came....so i have the ups box sitting on my bed for like 2hrs....and i couldnt take it anymore and i opened it.
i knew it was not going to help my system to much (it did help bfbc2 be smoother) but i knew my frame rates would not go up to much and sure enough they didnt.
i do have a 6 core now though
i think im gonna go sandy bridge but i dont understand it to much
(i usually run a crossfire or sli setup) so i need the 16x and 16x preferably.
the sandy bridges have gpu on the cpu chip dont they?
what is the 2500k vs 2500 (what is the "K" stand for)
dont the sandy bridges only have 1156pins where the 1366 is better for sli/crossfire?
i think im gonna get rid of my cpu, motherboard and video cards.
i can still get pretty good money for each of my items as i have all the boxes and my benchmarks are pretty good.
what i was thinking is going with the I7 920, 930, 950 or 960 and getting a couple gtx 580`s eventually.
basically i would be selling my:
cpu, ram and motherboard to get the I7 version and might have to put a little money with it.
and getting rid of my 5870`s for a gtx 580 or a pair of 6950s and mod them to a 6970 and also put a little money with it.
i think my 1090T with my 5870`s are benchmarking great but bfbc2 isnt as good as i want it.
Sandy Bridge CPU's are -A LOT- better then the old i7's like the 960 etc, also heavily overclockable, people are getting 4.5ghz out of them with like zero effort
People modding 6950's into 6970's are fools, and are killing their cards left and right because the voltage VRM's for them arn't made for 1.725 volts, they are made for 1.1250 volts and are frying themselves
Also you are complaining about your CPU being a bottleneck of performance, when its not, your GPU's right now are the bottleneck for performance. You could get 2 6970's and you wouldn't max out a 1090t
The K on sandy bridge processors means unlocked multipliers, non-K versions only have unlocked clocks, not multipliers. If you want to get a sandy bridge processor and do overclocking with it, you need a K version
A pair of 6970's would fry your power supply, even my computer with a 750watt I would over-load it eventually since I have maxed out HD's and fans and have a overclocked processor. A GTX 580 draws about as much power as your two 5850's even
Use HWMonitor and look up the temperatures, CPU temp is the one you want under 62c, and the multiple core's will have their own temperatures as well, those are the core temps, you want those under 72c
Come to think of it, it's not going to fit.
I forgot that his case is an NZXT Vulcan, which only has a 92/80mm rear fan placement.
Sandy Bridge uses 1155 socket, not 1156.
Aside from using the 'K' series, you also need to get a board with a P67 chipset, not an H67 one.
an older version of ATI Tray Tools gives you the option to manually set fan speeds, depending on the temperature.
I have one version with this option saved on my backup discs which shows as v05.22.07
okay, I can't get the older version of ATT to install and I can't find out why. Might by the installation of Service Pack 1 on Windows 7 64 bit. I've made no other changes. I've even completely removed every bit of ATI software and installed the 11.4 preview and when loading up ATT it still causes a blue screen crash.
If you have the same issue then set up some hot keys to change the fan temp.
Having owned an HD 5870 for 9 months then getting another for Crossfire I found it to be rather underwhelming as I still encountered slowdowns.
I was able to play at higher settings more smoothly for the most part, but during heavy explosions the FPS would drop to around 50 yet it felt like 30.
I ended up going with a GTX 580 and couldn't be more satisfied, BC2 was flawless and I never encountered slow downs.
I find it interesting to know that the issue with the 5870's could have just been fan related rather then microstutter. Having left the cards on auto I placed a window fan next to my case blowing directly on them as 60% GPU fan speed on stock 5870's sounded like a WW2 plane.
thanks for all the info you gave and same for the people that replied to me below your post.
One more thing regarding Sandy Bridge (lots to think about, eh?).
Make sure the motherboard you're getting has the chipset on B3 revision; previous revisions were the ones with the troubled SATA2 connections.
But if you plan only on using SATA3, it probably won't matter much.